The turkic people and tribes of Iran

[Sky earth]

Zand was ok, the first two should have never had their feet in our lands.

The Zand dynasty was ironically Kurdish Nabatea. The firrst true Iranian dynasty after centuries of Turkic dominance

[random]

I read somewhere that Qajars are J1 carriers which has nothing to do with Turkic peoples and that they came originally from the Caucasus.

Source ? j1 is found in turkmenistan too btw.

[random]

The Zand dynasty was ironically Kurdish Nabatea. The firrst true Iranian dynasty after centuries of Turkic dominance

Lurs are not kurds.

[StonyArabia]

I read somewhere that Qajars are J1 carriers which has nothing to do with Turkic peoples and that they came originally from the Caucasus.

Interesting, they probably came from Dagestan,or the very north areas of Azerbaijan since this where the Y-lineage does peak.So their Caucasian origins seem to be well established.

[Sky earth]

Source ? j1 is found in turkmenistan too btw.

I know that J2 is common in Turkmenistan but I don't think that J1 has a significant pressence there.

[random]

I know that J2 is common in Turkmenistan but I don't think that J1 has a significant pressence there.

sorry, I meant central asia.

[StonyArabia]

sorry, I meant central asia.

The Qajar J1 was probably Caucasian version, btw which has very little to do with the Arabian one. I don't know if the Turkmens tested would show it. But it would makes sense for a group of people who come from the Caucasus to have a Caucasian Y-lineage regardless of the language they speak, since languages do change but not the genetics of the population at least not greatly.

[gültekin]

Turkish Boy-Girl Students of Tabriz University Protest Irans fashizm

[Sky earth]

sorry, I meant central asia.

As for the Qajar haplogroup. Go to Wiki and search for "list of haplogroups of notable people". Then go to the contests and click to Fath Ali Shah Qajar. There you can see his haplogroup

[random]

Since when do Turkic tribes come from Iran ?

Your mongrel race has orriginated south-east Kazakhstan (along with another well hated mongrel race - the Huns -), they ain't no native Turkish tribes in Iran.