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    Default Turks are not Hittites

    Quote from one of my earlier posts:

    During the 2nd millennium BC, the principle powers of Eastern Anatolia were the Hittites, Mittanians(mix of Indo-Aryans+non I.E. Caucasians), and Assyrians. Each fought the other exhausting themselves until the break down of each of their respective empires around the end of the 2nd millennium BC. The next available records on the 10th century BC provide a stark contrast between that situation and the situation of earlier years. The Aramaean tribes came to establish kingdoms all across South Eastern Turkey, Syria, and Lebanon. The Hittites were overthrown by the invading Phrygians who pushed the Hittites to the Southern and Easternmost parts of their former empire. The result was the formation of several Neo-Hittite kingdoms in Malatya, Commagene, Adana, and Antioch where the common folk were a mixture of Phoenecian, Aramaean, and Hittite, ruled by either Aramaean or Hittite kings. The Assyrians kept to themselves trying to recover from their previous exhaustion in their homeland(dark green part). The situation of the Mittanians was bleak as they submitted to Aramean kingdoms and grew to speak Aramaic. The formation of these Aramaean kingdoms and the mixing between the natives of Eastern Anatolia(Mitannians, Hittites) led to the absorption of these peoples in to the Aramaean ethnicity. This Aramaean ethnicity would later be called Syrian by the Greeks. The Syrians were christianized in Antioch(where the Syriac Orthodox Church was formed), and completely converted to christianity under the Edict of Milan and the leadership of the Syriac kingdom of Osroene.
    TL;DR: The Hittites were massacred and displace by the invading Phrygians, however the last remaining Hittites fled to Northern Syria where they formed the Syro-Hittite states, which had a population of Phoenicians, Arameans, and Hittites. So even if Turks somehow have Anatolian heritage, it would be from the Phrygians and others, not the Hittites.

    French Anthropologist Georges Roux states in his book Ancient Iraq:

    It looks, therefore, as though in the great reshuffling of population which took place in the twelfth century the Hittites[....] has moved, or been pushed southward and eastward in the southern provinces of the former Hittite empire, provinces which had been spared by the Phrygian.
    The last part implies that the other parts were not spared by the Phrygians, and thus the Hittites fled to the southeastern portion of the empire. Now lets look at the Hittite empire to see where that is:

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    Hmm... Aleppo, Carcemish, Ugarit, Orontes? These are all in Syria.

    The Syro Hittites were the last Hittites to exist.

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    Additionally, here is an ancient symbol shared by the Arameans, Hittites, Phoenicians, Assyrians, and Mitanni-Hurrians:







    Now here are Syriac flags:




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    Hittite-wannabe syrian, cool

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    Turks are Hittites. It's proven more than one time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Turco View Post
    Turks are Hittites. It's proven more than one time.
    Alright prove it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Danishmend View Post
    Hittite-wannabe syrian, cool
    Euro-wannaba Turk.

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    Syrians look like carbon copies of Ancient Hittites. It can't be a coincidence
    Also look at their flag, they have the Eagle. But your flag has an Arab symbol on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkyMark View Post
    Euro-wannaba Turk.
    You don't even know me, hittite wannabe syrian

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    Syrians are too Arab to be Hittites

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danishmend View Post
    You don't even know me, hittite wannabe syrian
    Haha,you don't even know me Turkman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    Also look at their flag, they have the Eagle. But your flag has an Arab symbol on it.
    You should not deny the German contribution to the beginnings of the modern Greek state, up until even now. Especially, when it comes to the origins of the modern 'Greek' flag.

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