Wallace Clan

[McCauley]

English had already began colonizing America before they were ever able to enter Scottish highlands. That should tell you something.

And even through all of this, there was constant inter-tribal warfare among them. Clans were constantly cattle-rustling, looting, thieving, and fighting each other in disputes. Most of the most vicious fights you read about are the ones they reserved for each other.

[Graham]

Willam Wallace was basically only defeated because of decietful, spineless lowland nobles that fought on the side of the English rather than with their brothers.

Wallace was mainly down to defeat in Falkirk, then betrayed by John de Menteith. He was a lowlander himself and his fights. Andrew Moray had the Highlanders.

[McCauley]

Wallace was mainly down to defeat in Falkirk, then betrayed by John de Menteith. He was a lowlander himself and his fights. Andrew Moray had the Highlanders.

I just used lowlander to mean "official" nobles, the ones that were recognized by the English. I use it more as political term than geographic, I know it's silly to do that

[Smaug]

There from Lowland South West Scotland, round Ayrshire. Not prominent say like the Douglas clan. Mostly famous for Sir William Wallace. Wallace means Welshmen have heard.

Yes, Wallace means "foreigner" just like Welsh because of the Briton-Norman origins of the name. Wallace is amongst my family's surnames, and it hails from Ayrshire indeed.

[Catkin]

So... from doing some research on one easy to trace line on my dad's side, it seems it goes back to Norman elite in Lancashire around that time . But, one of the men in my apparent line, Robert Lawrence, married an Anne Wallace in the late 1100s, and the line to me continues from them. Is it to be expected that they would have intermarried? Were there other, unrelated Wallaces?

Edit: Been doing some reading, seems it could be possible- political reasons.

[Stefan_Dusan]

It's not that ficitionalised. It's like half truth.

This episode explains Wallace others around this time in our History.

I just finished the entire video. This is the height of this forum, bringing europeans from different backgrounds an opposite sides of the continent. Sometime, and somewhere in paleolithic Europe, before the receding ice age, before Europe was invaded by neolithic farmers, there was one man, and his children and fast forward many generations of those sons taking brides and having sons... one of them would be me and the other would be William Wallace!

[LightHouse89]

Braveheart is a fictionalised film about William Wallace. They're probably of Welsh origin.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_(surname)

My favorite character in the film was Edward the Longshanks.

[LightHouse89]

Yes, Wallace means "foreigner" just like Welsh because of the Briton-Norman origins of the name. Wallace is amongst my family's surnames, and it hails from Ayrshire indeed.

One of my moms ancestors comes from the Cunningham clan or group from Ayrshire. Apparently the surname wasn't Irish but Scottish but many Scottish mercenaries worked for the Irish kings in medieval times.

[Smaug]

One of my moms ancestors comes from the Cunningham clan or group from Ayrshire. Apparently the surname wasn't Irish but Scottish but many Scottish mercenaries worked for the Irish kings in medieval times.

Gallowglass.

[1stLightHorse]

So apparently I'm I2c, I've been doing research and this is the oldest paleolithic haplogroup still left (or say discovered) in Europeans.

It's found in minuscule amounts from Scotland, to the Caucasus mountains where it seems to be only present in Georgian and Armenian royal and nobel family. My discovery moves another possible home in the dinaric alps. It's also found in isolated mountaineers in Switzerland, and islanders of Crete. It's diffuse spread suggests it's rise and maturation was thousands of years ago, and gradually since has been replaced by people who discovered agriculture, experienced population booms, and had mutations in their haplogroup. See here in my thread: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...10#post2661010

The one clan that has it in Scotland is the Wallace Clan. I want to know everything about these ubermenschen who not only share my haplogroup, the oldest haplogroup of Europe found wherever mountains as there it could only survive (Swiss Alps, Caucuses Alps, Scottish Alps, Dinaric Alps, and mountainous isolated island of Crete).

How did they live, how they organize, how eminent are they in Scotland?

I have Wallaces in my family. Not direct paternal, but on my paternal side.

My great grandmother was Margaret Wallace.

In the British Isles, I2c could be Pictish or Brythonic Celt now that i think about it. Since it's so old.