An interesting map interpreting what Europe may have looked like.
An interesting map interpreting what Europe may have looked like.
The map looks supergood!!!!Germany should have won the second world war. The Sovjetunion would have never occupied our Baltic nations after a Germany victory: Never a part of the USSR! So wonderful would have been that. German East Prussia would be a near neighbour of my country with friendly relationships and so much more. All the Russians who contaminate Baltic soil today would be bad dream, but no ugly reality!! Latvia would be an ally and big friend of Nazi Germany, like we already was in the second world war. Many Latvians fighted as voluteers for the German side do you know that?
Europe would be clean of all that foreigners, muslims, liberals and idiots. What a wonderful world we could have if not the English and their stupid Churchil was...first he killed Germany and then his own Commonwealth. Goob job, teatrinker!England should have allied with Germany against Stalin and the USSR. New Pakistan, Frogeater country and New Obamaland pay now their prize for support the wrong side.
Last edited by Inese; 01-08-2009 at 01:59 PM.
Originally Posted by BeornWulfWer
Why would the Germans allow the Soviets to keep all that? If the Germans were able to capture all the Caucasus and Moscow plains, what exactly would the Soviets have left to fight with?
I'm certain I've seen this map and an explanation of it on Axis History.
Though the Orange States were suppose to be an actual part of German, except being an autonomous state akin to Bavaria in the II Reich and Tibet in China. Though the notable exception being is that despite this autonomy, all the political leaders would had been German.
The Pink States, ''Ostland'' was not a part of the German Reich and had it's own independent state, with substantial SS involvement and administration (Alfred Rosenberg would had most likely been it's first Chancellor/President/Etc)
Moscow, Volga and Ukraine were more or less described as an ''eugenics playground''. In which the German SS was supposed to have complete control over these regions, could do whatever it wanted and of course pursue it's Übermensch (no doubt through racial breeding between SS soldiers, German colonists and local Nordid specimens...)
Though I don't see the Soviet Union (or the "SSR") surviving in this kind of world. No doubt the Germans would be busy populating and exploiting Siberia. The problem being is what German would want to leave home for undeveloped Siberia?
The Germans mentioned the expulsion of the Slavonic people as being integral to lebensraum.
At least the way it is taught in America was that this was a codeword for sending them to die in the Siberian mountains.
But I'm under the belief that the idea was more like a ''re-location'', uprooting the Slavonic peoples from their ancestral homelands and using them to colonize Siberia (becoming farmers and miners in Siberia and sending raw materials back to Germany, in exchange for consumer goods).
As a man once said development has it's cost. No doubt the relocation to Siberia would had been difficult. But life would continue and be the same (if not better) than it originally was.
Last edited by TheGreatest; 01-08-2009 at 02:35 PM.
In terms of ethnic homogeneity, it would have been better. But the reason I dislike National Socialism is because it's a authoritarian ideology which restricts freedom. I don't like nanny governments, although I suppose I would feel better off than nowadays, where we have both a nanny government and ethnic "diversity".
It does, but the advantage of many of an authoritarian state that it takes away rights and freedoms that are regressive for both the collective, and the individual anyway.
As I have explained elsewhere...
http://www.thephora.net/forum/showth...932#post653932
Well... Haven't you guys ever heard of a benevolent dictatorship? The Nazis had a lot of benevolent stuff planned.
If WW2 policies were any indication, the National Socialists wouldn't had been militarist warmongers like the Soviets. Less emphasis on the whole "let's build 40,000 tanks in peace time!" like the Soviets had done in the 1920's and post-WW2
Last edited by TheGreatest; 01-08-2009 at 02:44 PM.
Strangemaps
I found the map by simply Googling for one. The page I got it from didn't explain the reasoning behind it. The original site where he got the map is now defunct so it seems speculation will be the only answer.
But there could be hope! Check out the poster for comment number 6.
Could it be?
There would probably be even more Germans, you have any idea how obnoxious German tourists are?
I believe someone posted an explanation behind that map on forum.axishistory.com (despite one might think it's an apolitical website). What I wrote was a summary and no doubt it's more or less accurate.Strangemaps
I found the map by simply Googling for one. The page I got it from didn't explain the reasoning behind it. The original site where he got the map is now defunct so it seems speculation will be the only answer.
But there could be hope! Check out the poster for comment number 6.
Could it be?
The whole purpose of lebensraum wasn't about reclaiming the Teutonic people of the East but simply living space for the Germans. The Balts and Finns were tolerated (despite not being Germanic) because they had more or less peacefully co-existed with the Germans. It was mainly the Slavonic peoples (particularly the Poles and Russians; less so the Czechs, Slovaks, Croats, Slovenes and Ukrainians) who were supposed to had been expelled/removed.
... 40 Acres and a Mule for freed Slaves!
... 400 Acres and a blond Russian woman for SS veterans!
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