How do you think the world would've been if Hitler had won WW2?

[Il Principe]

NO it wouldn't. A vibrant and strong Polish, Lithuanian, Latvian and Estonian culture would had been replaced with an American-Lite 'Gross Deustche' German culture consisting of Bavarian Beer Dances.

The cheap Bavarian-lite "culture" that exists in the USA is just commercialized crass nostalgia, and can hardly be compared to the German high culture. That tends to happen when settlers from one country are forced to adopt the mainstream culture of another. (It's probably the same with the Ukrainian-Canadian beery "culture" that you're no doubt familiar with).

If one looks objectively at the vast accomplishments of Germany, and then at Poland and the Baltics, one can only conclude that the former represents a much greater step forward in human civilization. Philosophy, literature, music, arts, in almost every area. And that's not an insult towards Poles or Balts, but merely an acknowledgement of German excellence.

1) We founded the bases for the modern world and modern society and science (Renaissance), contrary to your insignificant country.

Indeed, it's beyond absurd when a Muslim Balkanoid, who can hardly be said belong in European civilization, tries to slander the Italians and their culture. I suppose the "frog-eater" slur made a sort of sense, as both France and Italy represent a rich food culture and a high level of decadent Latin sophistication far beyond that of Europe's Rwanda.

[Thunor]

Pol Pot was a nut. Communists are typiclally modernizers, whereas Pol Pot wanted to kill everyone with modern ideas.

Pol Pot was a racist as well, definitely not a "pinko" in the normal sense. I've heard that he hated Chinese people (despite getting funded by Mao), forced Muslims to choke on pork, and that he killed all the Vietnamese people he got his hands on.

[Thunor]

-between 600.000 and 1.5 million russians served under the swastika.

Obvious cannon fodder is obvious.

I don't think Hitler was as evil as modern lefties have painted him as, but thinking he was a philanthropical friend of Russians is obviously retarded.

[Ausência Forçada]

I believe it would be better... just look at Portugal back then (30's, 40's):

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what say about now Lisbon streets:
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[Thunor]

I believe it would be better... just look at Portugal back then (30's, 40's)

I'm just curious about this: were Portuguese people classified as Aryans in the Third Reich?

[Midori]

I'm just curious about this: were Portuguese people classified as Aryans in the Third Reich?

They were probably considered untermenschen like us Slavs..

[Chronos]

They were probably considered untermenschen like us Slavs..

Please post sources to this claim.

Small semi-related side note: my great-grandmother said the Nazi soldiers (Whermacht?) that went through/briefly occupied my village (NW Romania) were much nicer and polite than the "vulgar Russian soldiers". Just some thoughts.

[Ausência Forçada]

I'm just curious about this: were Portuguese people classified as Aryans in the Third Reich?

Racial NS policy:

"Germans from Germany (Reichdeutsche) - Nordic Germans are said most favorable, but all German citizens are in the top category.
Germans from outside, active ethnic Germans, honorary "Aryans" from axis European countries in Volksliste category 1 and 2 (see Volksdeutsche).
Germans from outside, passive Germans and members of families, handicapped, political dissidents, common criminals in Volksliste category 3 and 4.
Other Germanic peoples closely related to Germans (Norwegians, Danes, Swedes, Finland-Swedes [11], Estonian Swedes, Faroese, Flemish, Icelanders, English and the Dutch) but treated as categories 1 and 2 in most privileges, especially pro-Nazi sympathizers. Until 1942, the Greeks were included in this category by virtue of their being descendants of the ancient Greeks.
Italians (particularly from regions north of Rome, e.g. Tuscany, Lombardy, etc.), Spaniards (particularly Basques) and Portuguese were treated as category 1 and 2, especially pro-Nazi sympathizers (e.g. Fascist Italy, Francoist Spain, and Salazarist Portugal diplomats)."

http://www.reference.com/browse/%E2%...races%E2%80%9D

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...7543&start=195

[Chronos]

As to the whole ordeal and our present state: we must look beyond re-creating past forms (Nazism, etc.); people are simply too soaked up with ethnomasochistic propaganda to look beyond the surface of past forms. On the other hand, there exist certain Principles, principles which have manifested themselves in these particular past forms and which must be bolted down and held as a beacon to orient oneself to for our future.

Realistically speaking, the major problem for most of us on this forum is engaging in the day to day world, in the age of dissolution, while remaining inwardly determined and governed by a completely different spirit.

[Rereg]

If one looks objectively at the vast accomplishments of Germany, and then at Poland and the Baltics, one can only conclude that the former represents a much greater step forward in human civilization. Philosophy, literature, music, arts, in almost every area. And that's not an insult towards Poles or Balts, but merely an acknowledgement of German excellence.

...And it's the reason why Germans should steal our lands and exterminate my people? According to your logic Germany should be Chinese or Japanese colony because those asiatic nations had greater culture and history than Germans.