Languages of Europe

[Empecinado]

Catalan also counts with an international projection. What you mean for Spanish is a strong international presence as one of the top five languages on Earth.

Whatever the reason, the association of the term 'Spanish' to the Castilian language took place already three centuries ago, and it's not going to be changed. So Spanish = Castilian. Simple as that. The rest are languages of Spain or, more accurately, spoken in Spain.

Catalan doesn't have any relevant international projection. Castilian is associated with Spanish because 1) International projection 2) Lingua franca in Spain 3) Official language since 1714.

[Drawing-slim]

I must say that German sounds the most appealing, French English and they left out Italian which is very beautiful language also.

[Comte Arnau]

Catalan doesn't have any relevant international projection. Castilian is associated with Spanish because 1) International projection 2) Lingua franca in Spain 3) Official language since 1714.

I didn't say the projection of Catalan was relevant, although it depends on what you consider relevant. But a language that is being taught at more than 140 foreign universities and has more than 8,000 foreigners studying it, does have an international projection by any standards. A projection not that far from that of several other middle-sized European languages.

Again, you're telling me the reasons why Castilian = Spanish. I'm telling you that, whatever the reason, the association exists. So calling the other native languages spoken in Spain 'Spanish' is only wishing to mislead people.

In any case, the intention of the original video is plain wrong. Apparently you get all pissed off if your Valencian variety is called Catalan, but you wouldn't mind it being called Spanish. Quite curious.

[Empecinado]

I didn't say the projection of Catalan was relevant, although it depends on what you consider relevant. But a language that is being taught at more than 140 foreign universities and has more than 8,000 foreigners studying it, does have an international projection by any standards. A projection not that far from several other middle-sized European languages.

Again, you're telling me the reasons why Castilian = Spanish. I'm telling you that, whatever the reason, the association exists. So calling the other native languages spoken in Spain 'Spanish' is only wishing to mislead people.

In any case, the intention of the original video is plain wrong. Apparently you get all pissed off if your Valencian variety is called Catalan, but you wouldn't mind it being called Spanish. Quite curious.

Nobody calls Valencian Spanish, I only said that it is a Spanish language and as Spanish as Castilian. Here people don't want Valencian to be called Catalan for political reasons, just like you don't want Catalan to be labeled as Spanish language for the same reasons.

[Comte Arnau]

Nobody calls Valencian Spanish, I only said that it is a Spanish language and as Spanish as Castilian.

I was referring to the video. The maker labeled the news in Valencian as Spanish because he clearly thought it was Spanish, not for political or geographical reasons.

Here people don't want Valencian to be called Catalan for political reasons, just like you don't want Catalan to be labeled as Spanish language for the same reasons.

No, it's not the same. Valencian and Catalan are the same language with different names. Catalan and Spanish are different languages and Catalan is also native to countries other than Spain.

[Empecinado]

I was referring to the video. The maker labeled the news in Valencian as Spanish because he clearly thought it was Spanish, not for political or geographical reasons.

I know. I just was joking around he was not wrong when labelling it as Spanish because Valencian is a Spanish language.

No, it's not the same. Valencian and Catalan are the same language with different names. Catalan and Spanish are different languages and Catalan is also native to countries other than Spain.

Spanish is just the international name for the Castilian, as the Chinese for the standard Mandarin. Oil French is also native for other countries than France and nobody says it is not a French language.

[Comte Arnau]

Spanish is just the international name for the Castilian, as the Chinese for the standard Mandarin.

I perfectly understand that. Just like Catalan is the international name for our language, even if you call your variety Valencian.

Oil French is also native for other countries than France and nobody says it is not a French language.

I don't see the analogy. The Oil languages other than French are dying and many remain uncodified, with no standards or official usage. Even Walloon in Belgium is disregarded in comparison to standard French.

[kkk77]

Not only european languages but:

[Rudel]

Not only european languages but:

I'm amazed that Disney managed almost pitch-perfect voice cast across the board. Though there's a bit of cheating in the video, as French is there twice (with the inclusion of French Canadian, which isn't really different in dubbing, since the accent tends to be swept away, there are just two different dubbing circuits), Dutch too (with the inclusion of Flemish) and Spanish as well (with Latin American Spanish and Peninsular Castillan). If you add Catalan, Spain wins the Frozen Cup.

[Methmatician]

Is Galician similar to Portuguese?