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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    But that's actually the definition of an Arab mate.
    An Arab is an Arabian or their desendants as opposed to various Arabised and Islamised peoples. It's pretty easy to trace since its all clan based with long oral traditions of descent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    An Arab is an Arabian or their desendants as opposed to various Arabised and Islamised peoples. It's pretty easy to trace since its all clan based with long oral traditions of descent.
    Nope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    The definition is problematic and confused due to pan-Arabist propaganda. I only count Arabians as Arabs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleficent View Post
    The word Palestine comes from the Greek verb palaio, which means ?to wrestle with someone.? In Scripture it is related to the Jacob wrestling with the angel (see the Greek Septuagint, Genesis 32:24). The name that the angel gave Jacob was Ysrael, meaning "he will wrestling for God" or in other words "he will be God's champion." Therefore, the names Palestine and Israel are interchangeable. The existence and the rights of the indigenous people of the Holy Land can never be denied. May you learn to look past canonized slander and come to see the true face of the sons of Jacob.
    The term Peleset (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in numerous Egyptian documents referring to a neighboring people or land starting from c.1150 BCE during the Twentieth dynasty of Egypt. The first mention is thought to be in texts of the temple at Medinet Habu which record a people called the Peleset among the Sea Peoples who invaded Egypt in Ramesses III's reign,[1] and subsequently on Padiiset's Statue. The Assyrians called the same region Palashtu or Pilistu, beginning with Adad-nirari III in the Nimrud Slab in c.800 BCE through to emperor Sargon II in his Annals approximately a century later.[2][3][4] Neither the Egyptian nor the Assyrian sources provided clear regional boundaries for the term.[5]
    Biblical scholars often trace the Hebrew name Peleshet (פלשת Pəlésheth), from the Semitic root p-l-sh (Hebrew: פלש‎) which means to divide, go through, to roll in, cover or invade,[21] with a possible sense in this name as "migrant" or "invader"[22] is usually transliterated as Palestine in English and equated to Philistia, which is used in the Bible more than 250 times.[23] Other scholars mention a theory "proposed by Jacobsohn and supported by others, is that the name derives from the attested Illyrian locality Palaeste, whose inhabitants would have been called Palaestīnī according to normal grammatical practice"[24] The Greek word Palaistínē (i.e., Παλαιστίνη) is generally accepted to be a translation of the Semitic name for Philistia; however another term – Land of Phylistieim (Γη των Φυλιστιειμ, transliteration from Hebrew) – was used in the Septuagint, the second century BCE Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible, to refer to Philistia.[25] In the Torah / Pentateuch the term Philistia is used 10 times and its boundaries are undefined. The later Historical books (see Deuteronomistic history) include most of the biblical references, almost 200 of which are in the Book of Judges and the Books of Samuel, where the term is used to denote the southern coastal region to the west of the ancient Kingdom of Judah.[2][3][14][26]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    The definition is problematic and confused due to pan-Arabist propaganda. I only count Arabians as Arabs.
    Your definition is simply incorrect though. Being an Arab is like being an Indo-European.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Your definition is simply incorrect though. Being an Arab is like being an Indo-European.
    Arab
    ˈarəb,ˈeɪrab/
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    noun: Arab; plural noun: Arabs

    1.
    a member of a Semitic people, originally from the Arabian peninsula and neighbouring territories, inhabiting much of the Middle East and North Africa.
    2.
    a horse of a breed originating in Arabia, with a distinctive high-set tail.

    adjective
    adjective: Arab

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    relating to Arabian people.
    Your definition is incorrect. Palestinians are not a Arabian (although a proportion of their ruling elite clans are and they often have Arabian admixture).

    There is a lot of confusion on this issue. Many Westerners accept the Arabian imperialist view that any Islamised/Arabised people speaking Arabic today are somehow "Arabs".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    Your definition is incorrect. Palestinians are not a Arabian (although a proportion of their ruling elite clans are and they often have Arabian admixture).

    There is a lot of confusion on this issue. Many Westerners accept the Arabian imperialist view that any Islamised/Arabised people speaking Arabic today are somehow "Arabs".
    No, you're just racist and idiotic. By the way, an* Arabian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Your definition is simply incorrect though. Being an Arab is like being an Indo-European.
    The opposite of Indo-European is Afro-Asiatic, though.

    I think you mean being Arab/MENA is like being Spanish/Latino(I'm referring to the New World definition).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleficent View Post
    The opposite of Indo-European is Afro-Asiatic, though.

    I think you mean being Arab/MENA is like being Spanish/Latino(I'm referring to the New World definition).
    It's not an opposite, it's a parallel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    It's not an opposite, it's a parallel.
    Sorry, yes, that's what I meant.
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