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    Quote Originally Posted by Saludong View Post
    I find the Thesis Anti-thesis dichotomy of western philosophy pointless. It sounds so invented, and seriously rightwing politics vs leftwing politics? What? In an everyday situation people apply socialist of capitalist ideas in mere seconds of each other and it doesn't mean they're right wing or left wing. I find the Asian approach of perennialism of adding things up to a whole, more useful than all these fucked up thesis and anti-thesis , right vs left, dualistic thinking crap that sap the minds of most westerners. Holistic thinking guys?!! It's not always about this vs that. God!!!
    True, the cancer of the western philosophy is awry paradoxes, sometimes they would make good experiments on paradoxic questions, it is when they made the best philosophical contribution, empericism, experimentalism,pragmatism. However many forgot that paradoxic questions and holistic thinking had been of eastern origin.

    Like Buddhist six way of existence, we acknowledge the existences of demons, of humans, of spirits, all unthinkable creatures. It is also our great philosophy to consider a world of coexistence of these different, unthinkable creatures. However, things would go awry from the west, they would fight for some ideas we did not understand, if we do understand, we may scorn them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellingr View Post
    Rejecting the Abrahamic religions has led me to become very interested in Eastern philosophy. There's a lot to learn from the Chinese classics, especially the pre-Qin era books that form the traditional Confucian canon.
    To be kind I recommend you to learn about Zen buddhism, basic foundation of eastern philosophy is collected under buddhism and some very little known thesises. Like Laozi, Mengzi, they were not meant to be
    authoritative theories, just food for thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexachordia View Post
    To be kind I recommend you to learn about Zen buddhism, basic foundation of eastern philosophy is collected under buddhism and some very little known thesises. Like Laozi, Mengzi, they were not meant to be
    authoritative theories, just food for thought.
    Thanks. My reading hasn't been as methodical as I would have liked, but I've been working through some Dharmaguptaka texts and the great Rhinoceros Sutra recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellingr View Post
    Rejecting the Abrahamic religions has led me to become very interested in Eastern philosophy. There's a lot to learn from the Chinese classics, especially the pre-Qin era books that form the traditional Confucian canon.
    Oh how fun. Some Asians had embraced your Abrahamic religions like me, I'm Catholic, despite my ancient ancestors being Buddhists

    [But that's mostly due to Medieval Politics wherein our old kingdom, the Buddhist Kingdom of Pannai asked for help from Buddhist China against Hindu Chola India and then Islamic Malacca {States that destroyed our kingdom} but China responded by placing a Muslim, Zeng Ho, as our head and acknowledged the Sultan of Malacca, Iskandar Shah, as sovereign over Malacca hence our rebellious and angered asses converted to Christianity when the Spaniards and Portuguese came [Spain from Latin America and Portugal from Goa] {And they were more trustworthy allies against the Muslims whom they kicked out after the reconquista than our Buddhist ally, China who placed a Muslim on the throne of Malacca when we precisely wanted our own home back from Islamic hands} so much for Buddhist fraternity then...]

    But we converted to Christianity due to the backstabbing politics of the Celestial Court then. We asked for help against Hinduism and Islam and in return China appoints a Muslim admiral, Zeng Ho and makes him guard the strait of Malacca FOR PROFIT, while we, the natives of that very place, got the short end of the stick and were forcefully migrated elsewhere.

    That's why we eventually went to war against Zeng Ho's fleet.

    By the 14th century, this state had grown so powerful militarily and economically, their naval power regularly threatened Chinese Imperial shipping. So much so, that the Chuan-chou gazeeter specifically reported that the Pisheya (Bisaya) [Another term for people from Irong-Irong] consistently made devastating raids against the Empire's commerce

    Source: Chuan-chou Fu-chi (Ch.10) Year 1612
    Anyhow, I suggest that you continue your studies in Buddhism. Buddha's world-view was highly agnostic and is very good for people like you. However, philosophically, Buddhism is good, but politically, it's not as unified and powerful as Catholicism.

    At a time when our old Kingdom of Pannai asked help from Buddhist China to aid us against the islamic threat (that just burned down the Buddhist Pala dynasty of India) they responded by placing a Muslim Zeng Ho on the throne and recognizing the first Sultan of Malacca, Iskander Shah. That's what eventually broke our faith in Buddhism. The denseness of our Buddhist allies and the non-reaction to the Islamic sacking of the Kingdom of Pala.

    However, Buddhist philosophy is still good. Especially with their many developed schools ranging from Vajrayana to Zen Buddhism.
    You continue studying it and not be afflicted by the political baggage of our historical politics. Being a 3rd person observer means that you can appreciate their teachings without being emotionally involved.

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    Great suggestions, keep them coming guys!

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    I recommend looking into Zhuangzi's philosophy.

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    Confucius and Buddha are the first two that come to mind.

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