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    Quote Originally Posted by Caismeachd View Post
    Carl Von Clauswitz' art of war is superior. Sun Tzu is a lot of very literal stuff that doesn't really accomplish much except inspires 3rd tier management perhaps.
    I read that around 3x and I wondered how I am going to apply river crossings and elevation tactics in everyday life. Then I gave up and then read Discourses on Livy by Machiavelli and it was a more practical read. Art of War by Sun Tzu was so literal.

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    Mostly normal humans, to find a normal person, automatically ends up find a non-european cool person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breedingvariety View Post
    (IMO) Most important countries in history of Philosophy:
    1. Germany
    2. Greece
    3. Great Britain
    4. France
    Kind of impossible...since if it wasnt for Greece, philosophy wouldnt exist

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    The western philosophy is mostly propagandas, the way of propaganda, the art of propaganda, the pretensions, the poseurism, the conspiracies, , ,the main feature of western philosophy is that the viciousness is unfathomable.

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    Since humanism is wrong, communism is wrong, all their revisionisms are wrong too, hard to understand? think this way, we all agree that a murderer is wrong, but, it does not make any person just only for killing that murderer. Therefore, the western philosophy is full of such antithesis, the most notable is capitalism and communism, and their revisionism, all of them are worthless in some point of view, because the artificial doctrines do not make anything revotionary than devising new system to serve all the futile catechism between antithesis and thesis, all can be boiled down anthropocentrism and artificial values, merits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexachordia View Post
    Since humanism is wrong, communism is wrong, all their revisionisms are wrong too, hard to understand? think this way, we all agree that a murderer is wrong, but, it does not make any person just only for killing that murderer. Therefore, the western philosophy is full of such antithesis, the most notable is capitalism and communism, and their revisionism, all of them are worthless in some point of view, because the artificial doctrines do not make anything revotionary than devising new system to serve all the futile catechism between antithesis and thesis, all can be boiled down anthropocentrism and artificial values, merits.
    I find the Thesis Anti-thesis dichotomy of western philosophy pointless. It sounds so invented, and seriously rightwing politics vs leftwing politics? What? In an everyday situation people apply socialist or capitalist ideas in mere seconds of each other and it doesn't mean they're right wing or left wing. I find the Asian approach of perennialism of adding things up to a whole, more useful than all these fucked up thesis and anti-thesis , right vs left, dualistic thinking crap that sap the minds of most westerners. Holistic thinking guys?!! It's not always about this vs that. God!!!
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    The western philosophy has long been drawn into juxtaposing different ideas values in conflicting light. The conflict is the core of western philosophy. People become vicious, cankerous, arrogant in such society. If the murderer is wrong, it still cannot make a person good for only killing the murderer, then the murderer is not up to anyones judgement, so why try to creat a social sensation of guiltiness of the murderer? The truth is we are all afraid of the murderer that is all. Our fear, our weakness, our cankerousness are the truth, not somebodys fault, not somebodys wrongdoings will make you a better person.

    It is peoples hypocrisy that creats convoluted theories, antitheories, all but decorated masks of inner ugliness: greed, arrogance, fear.

    To take off the mask you will find the world is simple for the humanity, yet so complicated only for yourself. This is not a philosophy, this is my world, and your world in my eyes.

    In fact, the philosophy of commence is money, greed, the philosophy of war is fear and hate. If you unfold these stuff up, only filth inside.

    If you do not consider them as philosophy, they will look like propagandas, so maybe these things are meant to be propagandas, to be called as philosophy is just a pretension to appeal to a bit conscience.

    Pretension and Propagandas are the truth of 90% of the worlds philosophy, the most valuable thing of the languages is only many ignored confessions of personal feelings, stories, beliefs. Therefore, a kind person is the highest philosopher, this is also the very close opinion to Buddha.

    Confucius is a huge hypocrite, so are many western philosophers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saludong View Post
    I find the Thesis Anti-thesis dichotomy of western philosophy pointless
    You do realize that the dialectic has played an important role in Hindu philosophy and Buddhist philosophy? Most Eastern philosophy uses the dialectic actually.

    The dichotomy of left and right wing is not related to the dialectic. It originated from revolutionaries sitting on the left of the National Assembly during the French Revolution. The (false) dichotomy is sustained by the ruling class and presents illusory alternatives when in reality both positions are one and the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellingr View Post
    You do realize that the dialectic has played an important role in Hindu philosophy and Buddhist philosophy? Most Eastern philosophy uses the dialectic actually.

    The dichotomy of left and right wing is not related to the dialectic. It originated from revolutionaries sitting on the left of the National Assembly during the French Revolution. The (false) dichotomy is sustained by the ruling class and presents illusory alternatives when in reality both positions are one and the same.
    I realize that. And I also know that the dialectic started out as parliamentary procedure for an opposition to unseat or disprove the government-side as it was in debates between scholastics (I am still a scholastic despite my Asian descent). But this should only be a matter of methodology but not essence. I should not draw my entire politico-philosophical world view on whether I am left-wing or right-wing in my beliefs since said beliefs are merely varieties of human opinions.

    And we should destroy this false dichotomy of left-wing vs right-wing, liberal vs conservative thinking because really it oversimplifies a dynamic. I.E: just look at a right-wing Christian. This false dynamic puts him into the far right but chances are a Christian would hold views which belongs to the left (i.e. concern for the poor and propensity towards collectivist action) likewise an Atheist left-wing Communist would also have fundamental beliefs which would belong to the right (for example: Pro government involvement in societal affairs and etc.)

    The Left Wing and Right Wing dichotomy is simply a division of convenience during the French Revolution, bloated into some sort of overreaching monstrosity.

    A monstrosity which should be struck down.

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    Rejecting the Abrahamic religions has led me to become very interested in Eastern philosophy. There's a lot to learn from the Chinese classics, especially the pre-Qin era books that form the traditional Confucian canon.

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