Cro-Magnon I or R1b ?

[Third]

According Eupedia Cro-Magnon man was actually I, and R1 arrived much later, about 2000 years ago with western Indoeuropean peoples. So, celtic, italic, germanic and latin correspond to them. But I cannot find the scientific sources supporting this theory.

R1= Indoeuropeans.

I= Cro-Magnon man, so Scandinavians and balkanians are the least indoeuropeans?


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[blogen]

According Eupedia Cro-Magnon man was actually I, and R1 arrived much later, about 2000 years ago with western Indoeuropean peoples. So, celtic, italic, germanic and latin correspond to them. But I cannot find the scientific sources supporting this theory.

We have very few mesolithic European Y-DNA:

Loschbour, 6220-5990 BC
I2a1b* - (L178+, M423+, P37.2+, L460+, M438+, L68+, P38+, M170+, M359.2-, L161.1-, L621-)

Motala, 6000 BC
Motala 2: I* - (P38+ , U179+ , L41+, M253-, L37-)
Motala 3: I2 - (L68+, M258+, U179+, L181-, L417-)
Motala 9: I* - (P38+, P40-)
Motala 12: I2a1b* - L178+, M423+, P37.2+, L460+, L68+, M170+, M258+, U179+, M359.2-, L621-)

La Braña. 5,000 BC
C1a2 - (M130, M216, P255, P260, V183, V199, V232, V20)

And yes, the haplogroup R1 is a Middle-Eastern haplogroup and arrived into Europe with the neolithic newcomers. Except in Eastern Europe/Central Asia, where maybe was a mesolithic migration too.

R1= Indoeuropeans.
I= Cro-Magnon man, so Scandinavians and balkanians are the least indoeuropeans?

It's more complicated, but basically yes.

[Linebacker]

CM is alot stronger in the Balkans than Scandinavia.

[Dombra]

I is über mensch cro magnid inded

[blogen]

CM is alot stronger in the Balkans than Scandinavia.

The Balkan I2 was presumably a Near Eastern origin haplogroup from the Anatolian-Caucasian LGM refugium and arrived into the Balkan with the neolithic farmers.

[Linebacker]

The Balkan I2 was presumably a Near Eastern origin haplogroup from the Anatolian-Caucasian LGM refugium and arrived into the Balkan with the neolithic farmers.

By just looking at the Cro-magnon's reconstruction you can see how the facial features match with most balkanites.

[Insuperable]

By just looking at the Cro-magnon's reconstruction you can see how the facial features match with most balkanites.

There are other Cro-magnon reconstructions, no need for cherry picking. If Mesolithic Europeans were just a continuation of Paleolithic Europeans Agassi or you would have a little in common with them since genetically we know to whom they would be the closest to.

[Linebacker]

There are other Cro-magnon reconstructions, no need for cherry picking. If Mesolithic Europeans were just a continuation of Paleolithic Europeans Agassi or you would have a little in common with them since genetically we know to whom they would be the closest to.

Post some other reconstructions.

[blogen]

By just looking at the Cro-magnon's reconstruction you can see how the facial features match with most balkanites.

No.

[Insuperable]

Post some other reconstructions.

Type Cro-magnon reconstructions on google and look for pics. As I have said what does it matter when Balkan people genetically have little in common with Mesolithic Europeans (with peaks in NW Balkans up to 30%), not to mention with Cro-magnons?