Dienekes: Turkish Speaking Anatolians Are Irano-Armenians Who Adopted the Turkish Language

[Danishmend]

Outdated bullshit.

Do you claim most of the Anatolian genes came with the Turks?

Turks and Finns have about the same amount (5-10%) of East Eurasian / Mongoloid admixture, you must be Uralicized natives then?

[Äijä]

Turks and Finns have about the same amount (5-10%) of East Eurasian / Mongoloid admixture, you must be Uralicized natives then?

So what are the haplogroups and components moving in with the Turks?

Yes, some Finns originated as Germanics and Balto-Slavs, we dont hide that, but Finnish East Eurasian admix is of different age than the Turkic one.

[blogen]

Here is a good publication from this:

Speros Vryonis: Nomadization and Islamization in Asia Minor

And this happened based on the historical facts in Central Anatolia: The invaders exterminated the local population and the lands turned into the nomads' pastures. These nomads expanded gradually towards the periphery, the local population locked itself into his cities and castles, the lands outside the walls turned into the nomad's land also. And the Turkishs conquered these cities finally. Because of this the post-Byzantine population's considerable part survived the Turkish conquest on the coasts, but not in the central plain.

This was the basic situation after the Seljuk conquest, the original lands of the Turkic newcomers:


And the results of their slow expansion:


But the Ottoman conquest ended this slow expansion, since the realm did lawful order on the area and regulated the nomads so this situation did not change basically in the next four hundred years. The only real change was the Kurdishs' expansion and the Armenians were the losers of this, since the warzone between the Turks and Byzantines was shifted into Anatolia because of the Manzikert battle, so the nomad Turkic expansion did not affect the Armenian borderland, but Ottoman-Persian wars and the nomad Kurdish expansion did in the same time with the solution of the Turkish nomads' problem. The Kurds were the new problem for the empire, but since the Kurds served in the Empire because of this they were the Turkishs' Armenians. While once time, the Armenians expansion was similar phenomenon in the Byzantine-Arab borderland:

[Danishmend]

So what are the haplogroups and components moving in with the Turks?

We don't know yet, since we don't have dna samples from the Seljuk Turks. But based on descendant testing, the sultans of the Ottoman dynasty belonged to haplogroup R1a.

[Stefan_Dusan]

We don't know yet, since we don't have dna samples from the Seljuk Turks. But based on descendant testing, the sultans of the Ottoman dynasty belonged to haplogroup R1a.

That's interesting since R1b* is much much more common amongst modern Turks than R1a*.

[Azalea]

So what are the haplogroups and components moving in with the Turks?

Yes, some Finns originated as Germanics and Balto-Slavs, we dont hide that, but Finnish East Eurasian admix is of different age than the Turkic one.

C4a1.

[Demhat]

hahahaha according to this claim, no one is Turk, but all this people has adopted the Turkish language.

Well we didn't adope the Turkish language for sure. What the source says is that Turkic groups mixed into the local culture and some of the local Armenian, Kurds and Greeks adopted into the Turkish society.

[Äijä]

We don't know yet, since we don't have dna samples from the Seljuk Turks. But based on descendant testing, the sultans of the Ottoman dynasty belonged to haplogroup R1a.

What is the breakdown of Turkish DNA, any stats online?

[Anglojew]

What is the breakdown of Turkish DNA, any stats online?

Yes, I'd like to see Turkish Turks back up their claims with genetic studies. I think the evidence is they're basically Byzantines with a bit of Turkic admixture but please prove me wrong.

[Äijä]

Yes, I'd like to see Turkish Turks to back up their claims with genetic studies. I think the evidence is they're basically Byzantines with a bit of Turkic admixture but is love to be proved wrong.

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