Well, well, well...

[Loki]

PS: I'm not offended at all, merely curious.

[Vargtand]

You might not personally hate them, but you DID say it is desirable to hate them. Is that really what you meant?

What is everyone else's view on this matter?

From a complete preservation standpoint yes. All I was doing was give a rationalisation, I thought that was obvious.

There are always other ways to view an issue than singularity. I can give you a counterargument to everything I wrote, would that post be more true as you would probably agree to it more?

[Aemma]

well from a European preservation standpoint it is desirable to be honest as Both Americans and afrikaners as well as other emigrated groups do contain taints of other cultures.

Well Alexander, I can only speak for myself with respect to this, but this is a bias I have come across from not just one European who has not travelled to our parts of the world, and if he has, he's not gotten to know the land or its people.

My blood is as pure as yours but of a different stock: French and a tad of English/Celt, which is NOT an impurity btw. I'm proud to be a, and forgive the crass expression, 'Euro-mutt'; I get to celebrate that which is best from a couple of different parts of France, England, Ireland, Scotland...even going back to Frankish and Gallo-Roman blood. But it's all of it European.

My point in all of this is I think we need to broaden the definition of 'European' for our preservationist purposes here and I truly think that The Apricity is the place for this kind of a more 'inclusive European-ness' if I can put it that way. And that is what makes this place so special and different.

In the end, I'm just as 'European' as you or anybody else here is, I just don't live there. As in true Norman style, my forefathers came here for land and opportunity and made a really great go of things, to wit, me being here eh?

So let's not start scrutinising each other's 'European purity' please. It's a pointless debate in my humble opinion and serves absolutely no constructive purpose here.

Cheers Alexander!...Aemma

[Vargtand]

There's nothing wrong with saying what you think, even if others may not like it. Feel free to speak your mind, but know that others will too.

Had it been my opinion I would defend it, I am indifferent in this issue. Yes I don't like Slavs, so sue me.. American and Africans of European decent they still belong to my people so I care for them and their culture as much as I care for the rest of Europe.



My personal opinion is that I care deeply for the preservation of all the worlds’ cultures, that I despise multiculturalism that is destroying the beauty of the human race by creating a singular culture. Emigrant culture as well. What I personally don't agree with is mixing in said emigrated culture with the native cultures of Europe.

This is my personal opinion.

[Loyalist]

What I personally don't agree with is mixing in said emigrated culture with the native cultures of Europe.

Stirpes

[Vulpix]

No Vargtand, I do not think it is obvious that European-born preservationists should *hate* people of fellow European racial stock who happen to have been born/were raised in a continent other than Europe.
I certainly would understand if one wishes not to "mix" with them so to say, but to go as far as hating them? Hate is a powerful concept.

There's no need to try to please me btw .

From a complete preservation standpoint yes. All I was doing was give a rationalisation, I thought that was obvious.

There are always other ways to view an issue than singularity. I can give you a counterargument to everything I wrote, would that post be more true as you would probably agree to it more?

[Loki]

What I personally don't agree with is mixing in said emigrated culture with the native cultures of Europe.

This is my personal opinion.

Which culture are you talking about? The one which wears steel-capped boots and are in love with swastikas? That's not European culture, it's an unbelievably trashy rip-off which probably originated in America anyway.

[Vulpix]

My point here is: why hate? Why not choose not to mix with them instead?

And who here hates non-continental people of European descent?
IF anyone here does, my message for them is that it would be hypocritical of you to even be on a forum where one of the two owners was born and raised outside Europe .

[Vargtand]

No Vargtand, I do not think it is obvious that European-born preservationists should *hate* people of fellow European racial stock who happen to have been born/were raised in a continent other than Europe.
I certainly would understand if one wishes not to "mix" with them so to say, but to go as far as hating them? Hate is a powerful concept.

There's no need to try to please me btw .

Here is a scenario for you.

Say you have the Swedish culture and the Norwegian culture. (As examples)

A Norwegian moves to Sweden, he invites his friends and over (Swedish) and they are going to have dinner, Now they do things slightly different so the Swedish company asks why they do it like that. Where by he reply oh that is just how we do it.

This goes on and then they leave, now the next time they have a dinner they wont question this. they might even start to mimic that behaviour.
and thus it starts to spread.

This has gone on since the dawn of man so that is not a problem per say, but it is how ever in direct conflict with preservation.

Now say you have a group of Americans of Swedish decent, they come to Sweden, of course they are going to be doing things differently than how we do here they to have had their neighbours over and so on.

And on that road it goes, and suddenly we will start to see behaviour which you find in France here in Sweden. As an example of course.

And this is in direct conflict with preservation of culture.

It would be easier had their culture been vastly different then it would have been more obvious.

This is a rationalisation, of quite harmless acts that spread, call them silly go ahead but you will find that you see them all around you every day.

That is of course one way you can look at it.

[Vulpix]

Yes I understand what you mean by that. What I do not understand would be the need to hate.