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    Western Civilization is falling due to a deep perversion affecting her soul.

    This most readily appears by the deconstruction of Western marriage. It is pointless & useless for males to get married in the United States, probably including many other Western countries as well. There simply is no reward, all risk, for men. What do I get out of marrying a woman, except risk? The liberal establishment (The State) sides with females, not males. In divorce cases it is customary that females receive half the assets of the husband as well as custody over the children. So marriage only produces a risk to the male (loss of half of assets).

    Throughout European history, European marriages had significant bonuses to both the male & female. A marriage provided security for the female, and sex for the male. European marriages historically have been dominated by the Roman Catholic Church establishment. Even European pagan marriages and models adapted civil bonuses. There were specific reasons for both the male & female to participate in this institution. And the marriage institution was the foundation for Western/European society, culture, and civilization. Religions strongly coincided with marriage. Because marriage restricted sexuality and children. Marriage primarily prevented the individuals of a society to have children out-of-wedlock (demonizing bastard/fatherless children). Bastard children were shamed by European society and restricted to second-class citizenry. No family = no surname = no birthright. The very idea of "Rights" comes from patrilineal birthrights, representing European's patriarchal tendencies.

    Today all of this is changed in US. Almost nothing is the same.

    Females are rejecting the husband's last name (family surname) or hyphenating it. Females no longer require chastity for marriage. There neither is a centralized church nor institution securing marriage; hence divorce becomes commonplace. There is no penalty for divorce (except a male losing half his assets). There neither is shame nor ridicule for divorce. People commonly have children out-of-wedlock or between marriages. The destruction of the "traditional family" is imminent.


    So why would anybody want to go "backward" to conservative, traditionalist, fundamentalist styles of marriage… with traditional gender roles?

    I'll divulge some reasons. First the reminder is obvious. No traditional marriage = no society, no culture, no civilization. Earlier I established that marriage is the core of these institutions. So to attack the core, is to attack all its subsequent effects. Once you destroy marriage, the institution, and mock it… once it is desecrated and made unholy… then you will destroy its derivative societies, cultures, and civilizations. You undo the fabric of the society. The method of accomplishing this (destruction of marriage) primarily was advanced by "Cultural Marxism" at the Frankfurt School in Germany, over the previous II Centuries. This method originally was devised to destroy enemies and other countries. It represents cultural warfare. Because there are many forms of warfare, not just only military, only financial, only technological. There are different types of conflict.


    I believe that marriage is natural. Even if you destroy it for a short while, it will regenerate and reappear over time. Because marriage is the result of K-selected species & genetics. Marriage represents a naturally occurring phenomenon developed by highly evolved and highly intelligent animals. Marriage is an outcome of cohabiting species, or IOW, groups of animals that live in comfort & cooperation at close quarters. This also coincides with cave-dwelling mammals… who had no choice but to live with members of their tribe for extended periods of time.

    Marriage is exceptional rather than normal/average. Marriage is rare & uncommon. So what most people view and conceive of marriage is a misnomer. Instead the "average marriage" or "average couple" merely mimic what they believe marriage is, or ought to be. These are r-selectors who mimic what is unnatural to them. Some, or many humans, should never consider the idea of marriage. Because marriage is not for everybody. Monogamous marriage is the pairing of one male & female over a lifetime. So if you only think about this a little bit then it is easy to conclude that this is a choice of a lifetime. Because it is a commitment of a lifetime. European marriage represents monogamy, life commitment, and a third-party institution (church) to back the union of the pair. European peoples classically have monogamous marriages with a spiritual/religious/cultural 'leader' or figure. And it is the responsibility of this third-party to ensure that the marriage is successful and consistent for the duration of a lifetime.

    This (third party) position classically was the moral responsibility of the Roman Catholics, who developed the technology of marriage for centuries and millenniums now.

    Marriage originally applied to European aristocracy, nobles, and royalty. It neither was a middle class or low class (poor/peasantry) institution. Because poor people tended to be unintelligent, uneducated, with low morals, and a wide variety of negative traits. The unintelligent, by definition, would never become responsible with making a lifelong commitment required of monogamous marriage. This is the reason-why marriage was discovered, mandated, and implemented by the third party of the church. Because the marriage institution carefully and meticulously arranged pairings between "the best" individuals of a society.


    Today marriage (in the US) is a joke, a farce, a scam, worthless. Most of these "marriages" have no foundation, no real commitment, and no structure. They don't mean anything. Who keeps the marriage going, and why? Who believes in it? Who keeps the vows? Who cares? And how can you make a vow, meanwhile nobody cares if you keep it? Who backs up the wedding vow? Who gives witness to it?

    There is no dominant, pervasive, monolithic culture backing it up. So I suspect and predict that "Western" marriages and families will continue to deteriorate. There simply is no reason for them.

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    I think it also has to do with resources and living standards.
    A dog fucks any other dog. There will always be food and a home for a dog.
    A wolf choses a mate for life. It's chances of survival depend on trust.
    Westerners live comfortable lives comparred to other humans.

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    Also, younger couples simply can't afford to get married nowadays, nevermind having children on top of that.

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    It has already fallen.

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    Yes it's fucked. Greed, and self-absorbtion/hedonism are cancer of the mind, and West is driven by both, both are ingrained deeply in the Western mind.

    Greed is a sickness of the mind, and brings devastation in the end every single time without a fail, enyone that thinks otherwise is a fool.

    Buddha:

    Ignorance (to reality), greed, and hatred are the cause of all suffering.

    There is no denying it. It shows you how stupid seemingly smart people can be. They can't figure out the simplest of obvious conclusions.
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    I would agree upon this very truth. This is what happens when their is a lack of an established culture; these groups amass a following such as feminism, liberals, etc. sell out their own countries unjustifiably that try to indoctrinate with this passive nonsense that inevitably self destructs since there is no stability, but conflicts happening left and right that destabilizes everything. That is why traditionalism with an established culture comes in; everyone can connect culturally and racially; hence, more stability can be achieved. Whereas a multicultural society is doomed to fall; like you said there is no foundation, but loose morals and family values are inevitable that will destroy itself thanks to the elitists out there that sell out their countries rather than preserving the essence of it.

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    It's a damn good thing that its falling. The idiocratic rule of the inferior majority is coming to an end and we may build something better when it all falls.

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    I sincerely thing one should stop referring to the Anglo-American world order as "Western civilization".

    Feels unfair and insulting to the Western Roman Empire, Charlemagne, and the blend of Monarchy/Nobility and Roman Catholicism that created it.
    I'm not even a blind follower of the latter, but it does feel extremely dishonest to use the same word to refer to two drastically different, even opposing, things.

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    Like someone above me said the West is ruled by greed (and by extension Consumerism). This was Marx's huge point in Capital. How can you build a successful sustained happy nation on greed? I don't think socialism or communism is the right answer as those have been tried and have failed. We put so much faith into these Western ideals that came out of the enlightenment that set us up for this like equality, tolerance and diversity. I think we need to go back to homogenized countries where there are clear gender roles and to stop with this diversity nonsense. Perhaps an authoritarian democracy as an intermediary step to fascism but not totalitarianism or tyranny.

    Or you could put your faith in the East. China seems to be going through it's own sort of industrial revolution with lots of able workers with less ethical and moral restrictions.

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    Anti-racists are opposed to an "All European, Only European" country & society though…

    Marxists are even attempting to flood Scandinavian countries with immigrants.

    So many people fight against European homogeneity.

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