The Sámi people

[Megrez]

I would like to know the context of this manifestation.

[Pallantides]

I would like to know the context of this manifestation.

They were demonstrating about the explotation of Saami culture by Finnish tourist industry

Sami youth from four countries, Norway, Finland, Sweden and Russia, descided to make a statement about how badly the Finnish tourist industry is using sami culture, clothes and livelihood

[The Ripper]

Sámis are equally guilty of that "exploitation".

[Pallantides]

Sámis are equally guilty of that "exploitation".

I'm not taking any sides, that's just what it said on the site I got the pictures from.

[The Ripper]

I'm not taking any sides, that's just what it said on the site I got the pictures from.

I know. I simply find that the Sámi criticism of "cultural exploitation" falls on its own ass because they try to assume the role of the victim, when it was Sámis themselves who began to parade their culture around to tourists, before it got more organized. The problem is the tourism industry, it creates a market for this "cultural exploitation".

[Agrippa]

Of course they have foreign elements among them, but they're still predominately European. Most of them look less foreign in most of Europe than the Greek Cypriots, who you consider European. Yes, I have been to Cyprus, but I consider the Greek Cypriots, European. Although, in most cases, they look more foreign than the Saami.

Cypriots have probably as much "extra-European", but less "extra-Europid" - which weighs more.

Though I agree with you that a large part of the Sami is phenotypically in the European spectrum.

As I said and I can just repeat it, Sami is an ethnocultural group, Lappid a racial type - they correlate but its not the same. Neither are all Norwegians and Swedes Nordeuropid...

[Karl]

Cypriots have probably as much "extra-European", but less "extra-Europid" - which weighs more.

The word "probably" makes me assume that you haven't seen any Cypriots. But I have to point out that the majority of them would look foreign in Europe. I have no idea what "extra" admixture they have, but it shows and is several times larger than any possible admixture you are saying that the Saami people have.

Now when speaking about the Saami, a large portion of them wouldn't look out of place in most of Europe, excluding Southern-Europe.

Though I agree with you that a large part of the Sami is phenotypically in the European spectrum.

As I said and I can just repeat it, Sami is an ethnocultural group, Lappid a racial type - they correlate but its not the same. Neither are all Norwegians and Swedes Nordeuropid...

But still, you do not consider them Europeans. That is very puzzling.

[Agrippa]

The word "probably" makes me assume that you haven't seen any Cypriots. But I have to point out that the majority of them would look foreign in Europe. I have no idea what "extra" admixture they have, but it shows and is several times larger than any possible admixture you are saying that the Saami people have.

Now when speaking about the Saami, a large portion of them wouldn't look out of place in most of Europe, excluding Southern-Europe.



But still, you do not consider them Europeans. That is very puzzling.

I can tolerate them in Europe, yet they are just not "as European" as lets say Norwegians, Spanish, French, Slovaks etc.

Right now I wouldn't put them out of Europe, I just wouldn't want the core element to be spread disproportionally - to put it simple, classic European variants are more desirable than Lappid, yet Lappoid mixes are tolerable, especially in their respective homelands, the areas for which their adaptation was made for.

Those Sami which are on the European side racially are obviously European and I see no biological problem with them from a racialist point of view.

The original Lappid people however were a foreign element, more foreign than Eastmediterranids from the Near East, in a way even more foreign than Armenids, even though the latter are in not necessarily preferable for a group of people and their genpool in my book...

[Pallantides]

[Megrez]

The fact Samis barely (if ever) appear in a European History book has to say a thing about them being not European.