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New map of J2b1 M205 created by member of Poreklo, official forum of Serbian DNA Project.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Croatian +50% Serbian @ 2.265001
Originally Posted by The Destroyer
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Bulgaria (sample 808)
Croatia (sample 1100)
Vojvodina Serbs (sample 185)
Aleksandrovac, Serbia (sample 85)
Sources:
- Y-Chromosome Diversity in Modern Bulgarians: New Clues about Their Ancestry
- Croatian national reference Y-STR haplotype database
- Allele frequencies and population data for 17 Y-chromosome STR loci in a Serbian population sample from Vojvodina province
- Непосредни резултати нових мултидисциплинарних етногенетских истраживања Срба и становништва Србије (на примеру Александровачке жупе).
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Croatian +50% Serbian @ 2.265001
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Serbs producing shit tmrca with only 900 years tells that this group has nothing with them. Only 900 years ago these people were not Serbs (just as there is case with more then one haplos among them and not only M205)
So much hype for nothing!
Also this maps that Europa Nazione is posting are hoax and they do not tell real situatuon.
Just continue with craps little Caucasian offspring
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J2b1 with Balkan TMRCA of 1500 years and biggest diversity in Fertile Crescent tells pretty much that has arrived 1500 years from that direction.
Also South Slav (Croats, Serbs, Bosnjaks, Montenegrins,) TMRCA of j2b1 is 900 years meaning it is recent arrival and sudden expansion among them.
Nice that now we know much more about this haplo. Also FTDNA seems to agree on j2b1 Fertile Crescent origin and expansion.
https://j2-m172.info/2016/10/possibl...ph1089-y22066/
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J2b1 indeed predates the Slavic arrival to the Balkans, but dont you think theres a possibility that you inherited this haplogroup from an indigenous ancestor who was slavicized, and then down the line his descendants became re-Albanized?
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It does not predate Slavic arrival and if it does it does not for a lot from this what we see now, Balkan TMRCA is 1500 years and we can maybe add max 10% to that. So 1500-1600 years.
My best guess is one of these three: Western Roman Empire, Christian migrations that took place from that direction 10 years before fall of Western Roman Empire, or Early Byzantine period.
This haplogroup is none existent in North and East Slavic countries but South Slavs assimilated it upon coming on Balkans.
South Slavic TMRCA IS 900 years while i have two unique str marker values that put me 1000 - 1500 years away from their group. It means i split up even earlier then their 900 years TMRCA.
We have Greek, Bulgar, Magyar also in our group but again no one of them shares my unique markers that put me at least 1000 years further then rest of Balkan j2b1>PH4306>Y22066.
We are native in Fertile Crescent and we for sure come from that direction. Seems like about 300 years prior to Arab-Muslim conquer of that area.
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Here is newer tree of J2b1, Roman gladiator that was found with j2b1 is under category 3DRIF-26 Roman York.
Balkan clade is j2b1>PH4306>Y22066 and we know our TMRCA is around 1500 years and we are most likely not longer then that in Balkan but we come from direction where we originated and where we first expanded, Fertile Crescent.
on the heart of Mazovia (Poland), nice picture for R1 fansNew map of J2b1 M205 created by member of Poreklo, official forum of Serbian DNA Project.
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J2b1-M205 is the Greek type of J2.
M205.gif
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I have J2B2-L283, I think J2 in general is an EEF Haplo
Target: DrMaul
Distance: 0.00000%
100.0 First Man - J2 Atlantean
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