Is haplogroup E Eurasian in origin?

[Stefan_Dusan]

There were two migrations out of Africa, the first was F* which gave us the most famous European haplogroups->R1b,R1a,I,J,G and even H (gypsy).

Then there was a much later migration out of Africa, which we can call DE. DE split into E, maybe this happened somewhere in Middle East, but essentially it's not so important. Having E means you are a product of the second migration out of Africa.

[Longbowman]

There were two migrations out of Africa, the first was F* which gave us the most famous European haplogroups->R1b,R1a,I,J,G and even H (gypsy).

Then there was a much later migration out of Africa, which we can call DE. DE split into E, maybe this happened somewhere in Middle East, but essentially it's not so important. Having E means you are a product of the second migration out of Africa.

So are you, though. You and I have a recent common ancestor in the past few centuries. Our autosomal admixture with regards to Africans is likely to be very similar.

That said you're (probably) wrong. DE came before F. 23andme likes to say E is East African but it probably isn't, though there's been some back-migration from there.

[Stefan_Dusan]

So are you, though. You and I have a recent common ancestor in the past few centuries. Our autosomal admixture with regards to Africans is likely to be very similar.

That said you're (probably) wrong. DE came before F. 23andme likes to say E is East African but it probably isn't, though there's been some back-migration from there.

What are you talking about? Me and you have a common ancestor? Only if we go all the way to Africa. Whereas with other people with I or even R, J that's not the case. With I our common ancestor is probably somewhere in Europe (or worse in Kavkaz). With J, or R somewhere in the middle east.

Haplogroups have nothing to do with autosomal results. We could have the same, I could be more, or less. In all probability I will have much less than you due to your ancestry.

Finally, DE is the *second* migration out of Africa. F is the *first* this is not even to debate. Check haplogroup trees and ages.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Here is haplogroup tree explaining this

[Longbowman]

What are you talking about? Me and you have a common ancestor? Only if we go all the way to Africa. Whereas with other people with I or even R, J that's not the case. With I our common ancestor is probably somewhere in Europe (or worse in Kavkaz). With J, or R somewhere in the middle east.

Haplogroups have nothing to do with autosomal results. We could have the same, I could be more, or less. In all probability I will have much less than you due to your ancestry.

Finally, DE is the *second* migration out of Africa. F is the *first* this is not even to debate. Check haplogroup trees and ages.

We have common non-paternal-line ancestors much more recently, is what I was trying to say. Y-DNA doesn't really affect one's individual aDNA score.

I'm guessing we both have minimal African blood.

[Longbowman]

Here is haplogroup tree explaining this

This map is horribly outdated.

[Stefan_Dusan]

We have common non-paternal-line ancestors much more recently, is what I was trying to say. Y-DNA doesn't really affect one's individual aDNA score.

I'm guessing we both have minimal African blood.

And how do you know, I didn't know we're related

[Stefan_Dusan]

This map is horribly outdated.

It's good enough to show that the two splits out of Africa are F and DE. And DE emerged later out of Africa.

[LightHouse89]

I am shocked Sicily isnt more african than that.

[LightHouse89]

We have common non-paternal-line ancestors much more recently, is what I was trying to say. Y-DNA doesn't really affect one's individual aDNA score.

I'm guessing we both have minimal African blood.

But today in england, well since the end of ww1 the british government began importing many africans....and records exist that they inter married. do you think explians why many brits today have african ancestors?