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    Quote Originally Posted by Easterner View Post
    Well if it's ethiopid like east african, than around half of it is negroid at least. So still much more than 3% negroid. I am very surprised and doubt it. I thought kabyles and riffians have very low negroid admixture level and no arab admixture. Also maybe the arab is something else and arab would be as white, as even pure ancient berber. Arab is caucasoid component anyway. Berbers were never european and I doubt claims they were ever too light on average. Even though there is that old egyptian mural with different peoples and lybian berber individual is lightest and I don't know what other proof of this there might be. They are mainly west asian descended and have lived for thousands of years in a warm mediteranean climate and some in the sahara too.
    The East African input in North Africa as a whole is caucasian
    and again all I have is a gedmatch spreadsheet whit no source, I'm gonna get my DNA tested when I can afford it
    Different sources give different results, There was one Riffian guy who got no Arab about 3% East African (which is common in Europe everywhere btw) and under a % of negro
    so it changes a lot
    But until I get my DNA tested I'm gonna assume I'm 1.5% black 2% Arab and 4% East African

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    The east african input in Europe you speak of, I believe is a certain haplogroup which is very common in East Africa and some speculate it comes from there, but maybe it's not the correct interpretation. Maybe it's just very ancient southwest asian that exists in all these regions because of some prehistoric migrations. I'd like to see an admxiture analysis on various north african groups and with large sample sizes. Pictures I've seen of kabyles and riffians makes me think they look southern european and a bit different than the rest of the north africans in both features and coloration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The King, I am View Post
    North Africa is more black than Arab
    also in the Berber areas they speak tamazigh and have their own culture that the Arabs don't like
    Northern Africans looks exactly as Palestinians, Jordanians, Saudi Arabians, Yemenites etc.

    "it's a wolf howling, not a sheep giving a b**w job"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Nirsch View Post
    Northern Africans looks exactly as Palestinians, Jordanians, Saudi Arabians, Yemenites etc.
    I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easterner View Post
    The east african input in Europe you speak of, I believe is a certain haplogroup which is very common in East Africa and some speculate it comes from there, but maybe it's not the correct interpretation. Maybe it's just very ancient southwest asian that exists in all these regions because of some prehistoric migrations. I'd like to see an admxiture analysis on various north african groups and with large sample sizes. Pictures I've seen of kabyles and riffians makes me think they look southern european and a bit different than the rest of the north africans in both features and coloration.
    No new evidence that was posted on anthroscape shows it comes from the Near East
    And no they don't look different, it's just that the none-Berber ones are around 25% black in Morocco (10-15% in Algeria) so they look Darker in many aspects

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    What is genetically "white"?

    Modern Europeans got the major light-skin mutation (SLC24A5) from their farmer ancestry (Basal Eurasian-admixed), not from their Hunter-gatherer ancestry.

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    Hm intersting that arab speakers are more mongrolized than berber speakers, even though even arab ones are mainly arabized berbers with little arab blood. Maybe you exagerate the negroid admixture in them? Although I've seen pics of many north africans and crowds largely like that.

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    I thought Berbers were 100% not White.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaston View Post
    What is genetically "white"?

    Modern Europeans got the major light-skin mutation (SLC24A5) from their farmer ancestry (Basal Eurasian-admixed), not from their Hunter-gatherer ancestry.
    What is genetically "white"?
    Modern Europeans got the major light-skin mutation (SLC24A5) from their farmer ancestry (Basal Eurasian-admixed), not from their Hunter-gatherer ancestry.

    -Gaston (random fact of the day)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The King, I am View Post
    What is genetically "white"?
    Modern Europeans got the major light-skin mutation (SLC24A5) from their farmer ancestry (Basal Eurasian-admixed), not from their Hunter-gatherer ancestry.

    -Gaston (random fact of the day)
    There is nothing random about what I say. It's actually more in line with your subject than what you wrote so far.

    So what do you count as genetically "white"? Knowing modern Europeans got whitened by Middle Eastern-admixed Early European farmers.

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