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    Default Do Jews like the taste of their own medicine?

    It seems they do not.

    Journal axes gene research on Jews and Palestinians

    A keynote research paper showing that Middle Eastern Jews and Palestinians are genetically almost identical has been pulled from a leading journal. Academics who have already received copies of Human Immunology have been urged to rip out the offending pages and throw them away.
    Such a drastic act of self-censorship is unprecedented in research publishing and has created widespread disquiet, generating fears that it may involve the suppression of scientific work that questions Biblical dogma.
    'I have authored several hundred scientific papers, some for Nature and Science, and this has never happened to me before,' said the article's lead author, Spanish geneticist Professor Antonio Arnaiz-Villena, of Complutense University in Madrid. 'I am stunned.'

    British geneticist Sir Walter Bodmer added: 'If the journal didn't like the paper, they shouldn't have published it in the first place. Why wait until it has appeared before acting like this?'
    The journal's editor, Nicole Sucio-Foca, of Columbia University, New York, claims the article provoked such a welter of complaints over its extreme political writing that she was forced to repudiate it. The article has been removed from Human Immunology's website, while letters have been written to libraries and universities throughout the world asking them to ignore or 'preferably to physically remove the relevant pages'. Arnaiz-Villena has been sacked from the journal's editorial board.
    Dolly Tyan, president of the American Society of Histocompatibility and Immunogenetics, which runs the journal, told subscribers that the society is 'offended and embarrassed'.

    The paper, 'The Origin of Palestinians and their Genetic Relatedness with other Mediterranean Populations', involved studying genetic variations in immune system genes among people in the Middle East.
    In common with earlier studies, the team found no data to support the idea that Jewish people were genetically distinct from other people in the region. In doing so, the team's research challenges claims that Jews are a special, chosen people and that Judaism can only be inherited.
    Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East share a very similar gene pool and must be considered closely related and not genetically separate, the authors state. Rivalry between the two races is therefore based 'in cultural and religious, but not in genetic differences', they conclude.
    But the journal, having accepted the paper earlier this year, now claims the article was politically biased and was written using 'inappropriate' remarks about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Its editor told the journal Nature last week that she was threatened by mass resignations from members if she did not retract the article.

    Arnaiz-Villena says he has not seen a single one of the accusations made against him, despite being promised the opportunity to look at the letters sent to the journal.
    He accepts he used terms in the article that laid him open to criticism. There is one reference to Jewish 'colonists' living in the Gaza strip, and another that refers to Palestinian people living in 'concentration' camps.
    'Perhaps I should have used the words settlers instead of colonists, but really, what is the difference?' he said.

    'And clearly, I should have said refugee, not concentration, camps, but given that I was referring to settlements outside of Israel - in Syria and Lebanon - that scarcely makes me anti-Jewish. References to the history of the region, the ones that are supposed to be politically offensive, were taken from the Encyclopaedia Britannica, and other text books.'
    In the wake of the journal's actions, and claims of mass protests about the article, several scientists have now written to the society to support Arnaiz-Villena and to protest about their heavy-handedness.

    One of them said: 'If Arnaiz-Villena had found evidence that Jewish people were genetically very special, instead of ordinary, you can be sure no one would have objected to the phrases he used in his article. This is a very sad business.'

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    Surely this proves that the Jews have a right to be there.

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    Absolutely brilliant, exposes the double-standard very neatly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    Surely this proves that the Jews have a right to be there.
    A right to be there, perhaps, but a right to tear someone else's house down and build their own? Hardly. Of course, if this gives them the right, this logic deprives the right of for example White Australians to the country they live in. But I'm guessing it does not work like that?

    Besides, try to stick to the topic, namely double standards when it comes to The Chosen People.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riippumaton View Post
    Absolutely brilliant, exposes the double-standard very neatly.
    What double standard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    Surely this proves that the Jews have a right to be there.
    That must be the first time in history that anyone claimed for statistical genetics to have a bearing on geopolitics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    What double standard?
    British politicians and academics have no problem in denying the indigenous status of Britons in Britain, their right to a country of their own or even the existance of hereditary ethnic identities of Britons.

    Saying the same about Jews is anti-semitic and results in public outcries and apologies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riippumaton View Post
    British politicians and academics have no problem in denying the indigenous status of Britons in Britain, their right to a country of their own or even the existance of hereditary ethnic identities of Britons.

    Saying the same about Jews is anti-semitic and results in public outcries and apologies.
    But in general this simply isn't true. The BBC, for example, is forever pushing its pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli agenda. It appears to hate Jews just as much as it hates the English. Or rather, it loves Muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    But in general this simply isn't true. The BBC, for example, is forever pushing its pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli agenda. It appears to hate Jews just as much as it hates the English. Or rather, it loves Muslims.
    Maybe they just dislike Israelis, but not Jews in general. I am baffled that many people don't notice the difference bewteen these two notions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermeticist View Post
    Maybe they just dislike Israelis, but not Jews in general. I am baffled that many people don't notice the difference bewteen these two notions.
    Well, it would be somewhat like saying that you like Anglo-Saxons, but don't like the English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    Well, it would be somewhat like saying that you like Anglo-Saxons, but don't like the English.
    Who are "Anglo-Saxons" for you? Americans, Australians, New Zealanders, South Africans of English origin, Anglo-Canadians? If so, then liking all the enumerated ones and disliking the English is theoretically possible, why not?

    Though it's something totally different from what I referred to. No analogy.

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