Albanian YouTube propaganda regarding Alexander the Great

[Crn Volk]

http://www.hermitage.nl/en/pers/alex...chtergrond.htm
The Macedonians

Alexander was the son of King Philip II of Macedonia, the region to the northeast of Greece. The Macedonians claimed descent from Macedon, the son of Zeus. They saw themselves as Greeks, but the Greeks thought them backward and uncouth – violent barbarians who did not dilute their wine.
Philip, who came to the throne in 360 BC, did much to promote Macedonia’s stature. He introduced Greek customs, patronized the arts, stimulated the economy, and organized an unprecedentedly strong professional army. In his reign, Macedonia became the greatest power in the region. He conquered the whole of Greece. He placed the previously autonomous Greek city-states under his rule in the Corinthian League. He married a series of princesses from the defeated territories for political motives, seeking to assure himself of their allegiance. Alexander’s mother, Princess Olympias of Epirus, was the fourth of his seven wives.

What were the customs before the Greek ones were introduced?

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Great comment. Now, how much of it is true I wonder...

let's take one claim at a time, shall we?

what proof do you have for your blatant assertion that "Macedonians were a whole other nation"?

I will just come down to it and say you are wrong and a liar. That is the reality of it when it comes to 'greeks' of today. You can simply read about macedonia on wikipedia and get these answers, but you all ignore them.

Ancient greece in the larger sense encompassed the whole balkans. Greece of today is nothing more to do with ancient greece than any of the rest of the balkans.

Epirotes are obviously genetically the same or very similar to albanians, and albanians are on the west half of epirus so you could in fact argue that alexander was half albanian. You can writhe around with language all you want, genetics say they are probably the same. I won't come out and say it's factual, but that at least has some basis in reality. Saying that alexander was 'greek' meaning "like people in greece today" is utter horseshit, and would be even if half of the dna in greece weren't from turkey and egypt and who knows where.

[Drawing-slim]

Is this Raine? The OP?

[Prisoner Of Ice]

I don't think it's Raine. Raine is not rabidly nationalistic, just anti-muslim. I don't think she would get into this argument about alexander.

[Lily]

Is this Raine? The OP?

Yup, after 2 banned sock puppets

[Reign of True Hayasa]

Great comment. Now, how much of it is true I wonder...

let's take one claim at a time, shall we?

1. what proof do you have for your blatant assertion that "Macedonians were a whole other nation"?

2. prove to us that the Macedonian language was not a Hellenic language.

3. prove to us that the Macedonians had a different culture than Greek Hellenes. And while you're at it, why don't you define what you mean by "culture".

4. the form of government barely has anything to do with the ethnic origin or national identity of the Macedonians.

Point out where I lied in this post. Is asking you questions supposed to make me a 'liar'? How does that work?
If you're gonna level accusations here, you'd better be able to back them up, otherwise, don't dare accuse me of being dishonest, you tool!

All you have done with your recent post is add more blatant assertions, again, without any proof or justification! I asked you four straightforward questions in this comment. Instead of replying to them, all you do is spout more nonsense. If you don't have any substantive or meaningful answer to these questions, that you can back up with evidence, then you've convinced me personally that your opinions regarding the history of Macedonia do not merit any intellectual engagement from me. that's all I've gotta say about your latest response.

[Reign of True Hayasa]

Yup, after 2 banned sock puppets

What is with your obsession with Raine? What has she done to you shiptars that you talk about her so much lol?
someone should make a compilation thread of her threads and posts?
Is she Armenian or Greek? I am curious.

As for you personally, keep thinking that only one user on this entire forum 'dislikes' the behavior of Albanian users (particularly the guys). You're cool though.

[Kiyant]

What is with your obsession with Raine? What has she done to you shiptars that you talk about her so much lol?

someone should make a compilation thread of her threads and posts?

Is she Armenian or Greek? I am genuinely curious. Does she claim a nationality?

Of course an Armenian-Greek who didnt know about this forum suddenly is interested in "youtube-propaganda from Albanians" but maybe you are just weird.
Of course Alexander was Greek but he was like Alfieb wrote partly Illyrian (which still doesnt make him Albanian though)

[Zaycev]

In the eyes of Albanians everyone who was Illyrian is albanian.

It's like saying Justinian, Democritus, Spartacus or Protagoras are Bulgarians because they were Thracians or partly thracians

lol

I love my Albanians.

[cally]

Does it really matter? Let's move on now ..