Did You Know Hamas DOES NOT Support An Independent Palestine?

[Anglojew]

I would support that if there was a One state solution (like Belgium) with two official languages (already the case), and it ceasing to exist as a "Jewish state".

Jews and Palestinians need to unite I agree. My peace plan, or a variation of it, is the best solution:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...rael-will-work

The problem I have with your argument though, is you don't wish Israel's neighbours to cease being officially "Arab" and "Muslim" countries.

[Kale]

True. You're obviously smarter than most.

I remember in school we had a link to an English translated Quran online, with specific 'phrases' or 'verses' sorted into sections. There were sections for land rights and hospitality and such, but I think the biggest section was 'Interactions with non-Muslims' which was 90% "kill them".

[Immortal Technique]

Jew killing it everytime...

[Ars Moriendi]

It really irks me, how XXI Century Zionists can complain so much about Hamas when it's so well-known that Hamas' rise to power and to the position of leading organization of the Palestinian resistance, is precisely Israel's doing.

Even the most Western of journals can openly discuss it (like the Wall Stree Journal here), but conveniently, nobody seems to care one bit. The average citizen nowadays truly is a blind sheep:

How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...75572295011847

The only thing that they didn't expect was the military leadership of the Qassam Brigades would get Iranian assistance to actually be able to do something. The political branch of Hamas is however completely coopted, with Meshaal sleeping his days over in Doha.

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The other thing that's worth asking, is why don't any other Palestinian organizations get any mention?

Israeli rhetoric always follow the same hollow logic "We don't hate Palestinians, we hate Hamas". So basically they're pretty swell with Islamic Jihad, and the militias linked to Fatah (name escapes me right now).

[Wadaad]

The map was released by ISIS.

The map is better (Sri lanka, India no longer part of Khorasan) but its still fucked.

1) "Land of Kinana" seriously, out of all the multitudes of names for Egypt in Islamic history, why this obscure reference?
2) Bilad al Habasha (Abyssinia) did not extend into Central/West Africa...that was known as Bilad al Sudan (amateur CIA mistake)
3) Maghreb does not extend in West Africa (refer to 2)
4) The part called "Orobpa" (Balkans) never called so in Islamic history, they had names like Al-Yonan for Greece and Al-Nimsa for Austria-Hungary.
5) LOL at Hejaz including the Nejd...this map was not made by an Arabian or even Arabic speaker


edit...OMFG Im a motherfucking genius. Look what I found: http://www.ibtimes.com/map-isis-5-ye...ts-say-1621422

I was just speculating, and here I was compeltely right...this map was made by White Supremacists. Geez, I scare myself sometimes how I can see through transparent lies.

You know, the more I stare into the abyss...the more I see that the 'elites' are imbeciles. May God protect us from their plots.

[Anglojew]

I remember in school we had a link to an English translated Quran online, with specific 'phrases' or 'verses' sorted into sections. There were sections for land rights and hospitality and such, but I think the biggest section was 'Interactions with non-Muslims' which was 90% "kill them".

I'm surprised they taught the truth and not a PC version. What country was this?

[Wadaad]

ABC News' headline read: “See the Terrifying ISIS Map Showing its 5-Year Expansion Plan.” It traced the map back not to the Sunni militant group, but to A3P, an American political party that promotes white supremacy. Other media organizations that published the map include The Daily Mail, The Blaze, a conservative news site founded by Glenn Beck, and iO9, a blog launched by Gawker Media in 2008.

http://www.ibtimes.com/map-isis-5-ye...ts-say-1621422

This thread made me more confident to trust my instincts, may God protect my fitra...

You are a cursed shaytan, anglojew...

[Anglojew]

It really irks me, how XXI Century Zionists can complain so much about Hamas when it's so well-known that Hamas' rise to power and to the position of leading organization of the Palestinian resistance, is precisely Israel's doing.

Even the most Western of journals can openly discuss it (like the Wall Stree Journal here), but conveniently, nobody seems to care one bit. The average citizen nowadays truly is a blind sheep:

How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...75572295011847

The only thing that they didn't expect was the military leadership of the Qassam Brigades would get Iranian assistance to actually be able to do something. The political branch of Hamas is however completely coopted, with Meshaal sleeping his days over in Doha.

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The other thing that's worth asking, is why don't any other Palestinian organizations get any mention?

Israeli rhetoric always follow the same hollow logic "We don't hate Palestinians, we hate Hamas". So basically they're pretty swell with Islamic Jihad, and the militias linked to Fatah (name escapes me right now).

Israel did fail to foresee the Shia-Sunni alliance in relation to Hamas.

Israelis aren't "swell" with IJ or the Fatah military wing.

[Ars Moriendi]

Israelis aren't "swell" with IJ or the Fatah military wing.

I know. I was just ironizing.
What I meant is, following the speeches of Israeli hawks you'd think that Islamic Jihad and Fatah's brigades either do not exist, or do not represent a problem for Israel. Disingenous position, that's my point.

[Kale]

I'm surprised they taught the truth and not a PC version. What country was this?

They didn't teach any of it. It was, here you go, here's the whole damn thing, look around for a bit. It was the U.S.