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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    It is not a religion. There are no rituals involved, no dogma or community. Simply a lack of belief in a god. I'm an atheist and have seen no evidence for the existence of a god yet. It's simply a non-issue for me.
    A religion doesn't necessarily have to have rituals, dogmas, etc. A religion is what a group of people believe in and in this case, it's believing in there is no God. This is one of the reasons I've not classified myself as Atheist because being a Atheist meaning you still believe. It's the matter of believing in there is no God and this type of religion doesn't need dogmas, rituals because the point of Atheism is to not believe in God.

    I don't consider any form of religion important to me. I describe myself as non-religious, practically a person who doesn't believe in religions. Religion was manifested by humans out of a need to believe in something. I don't have a need to believe in something thus I am not religious. Hope I got my point across but that's my perspective on Atheism and religion in general.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
    A religion doesn't necessarily have to have rituals, dogmas, etc. A religion is what a group of people believe in and in this case, it's believing in there is no God. This is one of the reasons I've not classified myself as Atheist because being a Atheist meaning you still believe. It's the matter of believing in there is no God and this type of religion doesn't need dogmas, rituals because the point of Atheism is to not believe in God.
    So basically, you mean that non-religious people are not allowed to think for themselves, lest they be labelled "religious"? That's ridiculous. It is very logical to assume that God doesn't exist, just as Darth Vader doesn't exist. Taking the firm point of view that Darth Vader, God, the Tooth Fairy and the Leprechaun don't exist, doesn't mean you're religious. It's silly, childish reasoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    So basically, you mean that non-religious people are not allowed to think for themselves, lest they be labelled "religious"? That's ridiculous. It is very logical to assume that God doesn't exist, just as Darth Vader doesn't exist. Taking the firm point of view that Darth Vader, God, the Tooth Fairy and the Leprechaun don't exist, doesn't mean you're religious. It's silly, childish reasoning.
    No, that's not what I meant. Atheism is a religion by definition. Since religion is usually intertwined with matters concerning Gods so... being non-religious would mean you don't believe in any forms of religion. But if one identifies as Atheist meaning he is still religious but he doesn't believe in a God.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
    Atheism is a religion by definition.
    No it is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    No it is not.
    How would you define religion then?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
    How would you define religion then?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion

    A religion is any systematic approach to living that involves beliefs about one's origins, one's place in the world, or a responsibility to live and act in the world in particular ways. Religion is often equated with faith and belief in a higher power or truth, but it is more commonly defined in religious studies as the patterns that express that faith and reinforce it in day-to-day living.
    Atheism is not a belief system. Atheists can have any amount of viewpoints over all walks of life. There is no dogma or central belief system, no specific lifestyle that atheists have to follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion



    Atheism is not a belief system. Atheists can have any amount of viewpoints over all walks of life. There is no dogma or central belief system, no specific lifestyle that atheists have to follow.
    That's certainly one way to define religion and atheism in general. But religions like atheism doesn't necessarily to have all the basic fundamentals of a religion, eh? This is just my opinion and I am going to leave at it.


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    Bible Bennie: Hey Johnny! I have a question for you ... wait for it ... do you believe in God?

    Johnny: Uhmm ... let me think. Hmmm ... it seems irrational to me to think that a God could exist, in the same way that the Tooth Fairy could exist. So ... my answer to your question is an unequivocal "no".

    Bible Bennie: HAHAHAHA!!! Gotcha!! You've just proved that you are RELIGIOUS! You belong to the Atheism religion!! Hahahaha!!

    Johnny: Go fuck yourself, retard.
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    First, you can repeat to yourself that atheism is a religion as many time you want, it won't make it true. I just want to pull out my hair from the roots when I hear that knucklehead assertion.

    Neither write atheist nor atheism with capital initial, as it's grammatical incorrect and you imply that it's a religion.

    I'm fairly confident to say that the only time nonbelievers use the word atheist to describe themselves, is when they are confronted with a daft religious quiz or by a bible basher.

    I don't believe in any god or supernatural things. But why do we really have a word for that? My guess it the established religion (Christianity) wanted to mark us in the past as undesirables, evil (a religious term which have no meaning) and whatnot. It's a badge of shame in the eyes of the Church.

    I don't like raisins. So my question is.

    Do we need a word for person who don't eat raisins?
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