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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Nik~ View Post
    What remains of the modern atheism without the judeo-christian morality ?
    "Morality" in quotation marks. If one actually reads the Bible one finds more of it is what most people would call immoral than the stuff that's quoted.

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    Wink "Where do atheists come from?"

    some might be persuaded of the non-sensicality of religion
    by details of this nature:


    -- Animal Sacrifice -- in America: In September, Orthodox Jewish communities once again staged traditional kaparot, in which chickens are killed in a prescribed way for the purpose of "transferring" a believer's latest sins over to the chicken (whose death banishes the sins). (In many such ceremonies, the chickens are donated for food, but protesters in Los Angeles criticized rogue practitioners who simply tossed carcasses into the trash).




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    Atheists came from hell, they're Satan's children. They don't follow religion, ban them.
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    Being a fat nerd is no excuse, since both things can be cured. It's just that you don't have sufficient willpower to do that.

    Two things make a man - brain and balls. Everything else is secondary and/or can be achieved if you have those. Looks like you could use some serious upgrade in both these areas. I highly recommend Socrates/Plato and powerlifting.

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    Atheists (rational) come from Mars, Theists (irrational) come from Venus.

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    eek "The White race has conquered the whole world and slain the Dragon (of superstition)...

    ...And the race had to do it. If the human mind had been incapable of that achievement,
    the most difficult of all it’s achievements, it would have been doomed.

    Intellect would have ended in failure on this planet.
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    The indisputable proof of the innately superior power of the European mind today is atheism." - Henri Matisse




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    I consider myself an atheist, but I'm not one of those self-righteous ones who denigrate people who are religious. I think everyone has a right to their own beliefs, and I can definitely understand why some people turn to religion.

    But I think there definitely is a correlation between education and atheism, because the more education and knowledge one gets, the more one is capable of having the tools to critically think and question our social institutions. Also, it's quite clear that all religions are man made and created to serve social purposes. Whether there is a god or not, even though there is no concrete material facts supporting it, we cannot ascertain this fact, but I know one thing for sure, all the human beings who claim they represent god's words to control others are either lunatics or manipulative.

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    Where do atheists come from?

    There was a time not so long when a-theist would specifically denote those who claim there is no God. But now the term has been appropriate by much of those who simply don't believe in God, and want to avoid the burden of proof of showing there is no God.

    I don't know where atheists come from, but I know it is not from some sort of romantic superior pursue of rationality as some believe. I will just say two things for now:

    1. Even if there is a correlation between atheism and education, correlation does not imply causation. So it doesn't mean being more educated causes one to be an atheist.

    2. This is a modern trend, history is full of very bright people who were theists. Just to quote one person that 95% of atheists love and some even ironically celebrate his birthday during Christmas with a subtle ton of mockery:

    Every man, so far as he is a thing that has perception, is one and the same man during his whole life, in all and each of his organs of sense. God is the same God, always and everywhere. He is omnipresent, not virtually only, but also substantially; for virtue cannot subsist without substance. In him are all things contained and moved; yet neither affects the other: God suffers nothing from the motion of bodies; bodies find no resistance from the omnipresence of God. ‘Tis allowed by all that the supreme God exists necessarily; and by the same necessity he exists always and every where.
    Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica, General Scholium - Isaac Newton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Also View Post
    Where do atheists come from?

    There was a time not so long when a-theist would specifically denote those who claim there is no God. But now the term has been appropriate by much of those who simply don't believe in God, and want to avoid the burden of proof of showing there is no God.

    I don't know where atheists come from, but I know it is not from some sort of romantic superior pursue of rationality as some believe. I will just say two things for now:

    1. Even if there is a correlation between atheism and education, correlation does not imply causation. So it doesn't mean being more educated causes one to be an atheist.

    2. This is a modern trend, history is full of very bright people who were theists. Just to quote one person that 95% of atheists love and some even ironically celebrate his birthday during Christmas with a subtle ton of mockery:

    Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica, General Scholium - Isaac Newton
    Atheism is flavour of the month, constantly pushed by the media over the last few years whilst Christianity especially Catholicism are constantly attacked and ridiculed. People should stop and think why this is happening. Governments and media corporations which want to exploit people would love them to be atheist. Its being promoted by Freemasons as well as others with their own agendas. But while a simple child could think of the idea that maybe God doesn't exist, the truly intelligent have always realized that God is ultimate reality and religion has a lot more depth than atheists realize.

    "A little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion." - Francis Bacon

    Logical and rational evidence of God:
    Philosophy of Religion lecture podcast at Oxford University
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    What is more, the survey shows a far stronger correlation between education and certain "irrational" beliefs: for example, only 29.6 per cent of those without even an elementary education believe in telepathy, compared with 51.8 per cent of people with degree-level education.


    Closer to home, an analysis of the 2008 British Social Attitudes (BSA) survey by David Voas of the University of Manchester reveals that the historical correlation between being educated and being "non-religious" has not only weakened but reversed. Looking at white British people, for example, the findings show that only around 25 per cent of men aged between 25 and 34 claiming "no religion" have degrees, compared with around 40 per cent of those describing themselves as religious. For women in the same age group, the difference is less marked but the trend is the same. The picture is more complicated across different ethnic groups, although the overall trend remains the same.
    Because these are the values you need to have any kind of lasting success and legacy. Without them, your 12 year old daughter will be boning random black guys and doing drugs. She'll probably never get marry and have a kid, or if she does have a kid it will be bastard of some loser.

    Also, when you are far enough on the low end of intelligence you simply can't conceive of intangible things like telepathy or telekinesis.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
    And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post
    some might be persuaded of the non-sensicality of religion
    by details of this nature:


    -- Animal Sacrifice -- in America: In September, Orthodox Jewish communities once again staged traditional kaparot, in which chickens are killed in a prescribed way for the purpose of "transferring" a believer's latest sins over to the chicken (whose death banishes the sins). (In many such ceremonies, the chickens are donated for food, but protesters in Los Angeles criticized rogue practitioners who simply tossed carcasses into the trash).


    There's a difference between superstition and religion. And a difference between religion and a cult like what the muslims have.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
    And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

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