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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Moreover, social scientists themselves consistently rank as the most atheistic of all academics:
    Oh, and this made me laugh too. These 'scientists' who think everything should be free and everyone should get paid the same wages are the most atheistic and engineers, doctors and mathematicians are the most religious. QED! God's truth should be clear from this to even the most simpleminded.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
    And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

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    Great, now let's see this study controlled for age. They probably only didn't because they wouldn't get any interesting results (i.e. no difference).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonhead View Post
    There's a difference between superstition and religion. And a difference between religion and a cult like what the muslims have.
    The following is a description of what cult is:

    1. A cult is a religious group with extreme beliefs and practices - beliefs that are often contrary to science and logic but they are believed as "obvious" truth by the cult members.

    2. The members of cults often isolate themselves from friends, family and society and use deceptive and unethical recruiting techniques

    3. Use manipulative methods to control the minds of followers

    4. Venerate a human leader or leaders

    5. Recruiting work is performed by all of the members

    6. People are not allowed to criticize the leader, the doctrine, or the organization, or read information that is critical of the cult.

    7. Members are trained to reject and disbelieve criticism of the cult as lies from Satan.

    8. Members spy on one another and report improper activities or comments to leaders.

    9. Members are taught to suppress anything which might reflect negatively to outsiders about the cult.

    10. The doctrine is absolutist and the ideology is internalized as "the Truth."

    11. Members are told to avoid contact with ex-members or critics, even their relatives.
    Members are instilled with a deep fear about ever leaving the organization, and anyone who does depart is of the devil and sometimes severely punished.
    Members are emotional controlled and warned of being caught and punished.

    12. Disciplinary action is administered by group leaders, which may involve excommunication for such things as questioning organization policy or doctrine.

    13. People are encouraged to sacrifice education, career and family interests to server the interests of the cult.

    14. Advocate socializing only with other members in the organization and avoiding outsiders.

    15. The belief in apocalypse and Dooms Day.
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    All these traits are present in Islam. Based on the above, Islam is a cult. It is the biggest and the most successful cult. It practically reunites every feature of cult. Other cults may not be cultic in some of the above points. But Islam is cultic in every way and it would be a gross mistake to number it among religions just because 1.2 billion benighted people call themselves Muslims.

    Islam is known as the second largest religion. The very fact that 1.2 billion people call themselves Muslims vests Islam with the mantel of legitimacy and confirms the claim that it is a religion. But is it?

    Can 1.2 billion people be wrong? Well, in logic we have something called "argumentum ad numerum". It states that something is true if a lot of people believe in it. But argumentum ad numerum is a logical fallacy. Truth cannot be established by the consensus of the majority. In fact many arguments have been proven to be false, even though everyone in the world once accepted them as true. For example, not until a few centuries ago everyone believed that the Earth is flat and is at the centre of the universe. Despite that common belief both geocentricity and the idea of the flat Earth were false. A false belief does not become true even if everyone thinks they are true.

    Therefore, not only 1.2 billion people, but the entire mankind can be wrong. As Bertrand Russell said: “The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.” (Source)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonhead View Post
    God's truth should be clear from this to even the most simpleminded.
    What is "God's truth"? It is entirely subjective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dál Riata View Post
    Atheism is flavour of the month
    It will become flavour of the century, and afterwards. Because of scientific knowledge increasing there is no reason to believe in the Bible anymore.
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    Great post, Raine.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
    And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    All these traits are present in Islam. Based on the above, Islam is a cult.
    Christianity is a cult as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    It will become flavour of the century, and afterwards. Because of scientific knowledge increasing there is no reason to believe in the Bible anymore.
    Yes the scientists are more religious than the sociologists.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
    And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    What is "God's truth"? It is entirely subjective.
    The truth God exists.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
    And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonhead View Post
    Yes the scientists are more religious than the sociologists.
    No, scientists are open to correction of new findings. They don't follow dogma.
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