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    Quote Originally Posted by Uhtred View Post
    You and your agenda of making Turks look and sound European...
    That's what I have meant with stubborn eurocentrism


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    That's what I have meant with stubborn eurocentrism
    You always try to find non-existent relations between Europeans and Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uhtred View Post
    You always try to find non-existent relations between Europeans and Turks.
    No, it's Europeans who try this since 200 years At the end I won't be surprised when Turks turn out to be Indogayropeans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    No, it's Europeans who try this since 200 years At the end I won't be surprised when Turks turn out to be Indogayropeans.
    Aye, the Gayropeans who conquered all the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uhtred View Post
    Aye, the Gayropeans who conquered all the world.
    And saw the rest of the world as a barbaric and primitive periphery. Eurocentrism is a crime against humanity.


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    "We call a traditional science the Eurocentric historical science. The Eurocentrism is considered to be a kind of ethnocentrism. Arisen in close borders of the feudal Europe, it spread when the European peoples, who outstripped the rest of the mankind in the scientific and technical level, came onto a stage of the global progress." - [Artanovsky S.N., 1967, 19] -

    "Eurocentrism is not a science, but an ideology of the Europeans, and wider of the Indo-Europeans, who in the consideration of the historical questions act first of all out of the Europeans" and Indo-Europeans" interests, aiming to prove that Europe from the very beginning belonged only to the Europeans, that in many regions of Asia originally lived only Indo-Europeans, and the other, non-Indo-European peoples come to their modern territories much later. To the Eurocentrism "all the world is only a barbaric periphery of Europe." - [Gumilev L.N., 1993, 319] -
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    There's more to this than 'euro-centrism'. There's also all the amateurish attempts to link Basque to the hypothetical Na-Dene-Caucasian family as well as any others. The frivolity of it all reminds me of Mario Alinei's work where he tries to link Etruscan to Uralic.

    If one pays attention to genetics though, one can find a reasonable explanation for why Basque is a language isolate and that is because the Basque themselves basically show a Neolithic genetic structure that is second only to Sardinians among modern populations. The Sardinians as well are believed to have spoken a non-IE language as evidence by non-IE toponyms found on the island. See a pattern?:

    -Closest Mesolithic modern populations: Non-IE speaking Finns and Estonians.
    -Closest Neolithic modern populations: Non-IE speaking Basque and Sardinians (if you accept that the pre-Romance language of Sardinia was non-IE)

    Basically shows that IE is a late Calcolithic-early Bronze age language.

    Even genetic studies suggest the Etruscans established themselves during the Neolithic in Italy and hence why that language became an isolate. Both G2a are found among modern Tuscan and Basque populations and it was of course the primary male lineage of the Neolithic. Both languages are said to possess agglutinative characteristics.

    Ergo, Basque, the lost pre-IE language of Sardinia and Etruscan languages should be recognized rightfully as to what they are: Neolithic Survivor languages.

    Not IE, not Uralic, not Turkic as they cannot reasonably be linked to any based on linguistics but also what genetics has taught us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    Here is an interesting video about facial similarities between Bashkir, French, Spanish and English people:

    big bump!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale View Post
    Bashkir:Basque

    Father - ata:aita
    This could be IE influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    This could be IE influence.
    meh, Basque people, but only those with I2a1 (so minority) were once "WANNABE CZECHS"!!!!!! or I2a1 community had common vocabulary back in the time
    I mean R1a and R1b captured some I2a1 vocabulary to their languages, but R1b less, R1a were more patient pupils



    Aldapan gora means uphills, but in Czech do hore, in Polish pod Gore, the same in Slovenian

    Sir Jandacek explained it:
    http://www.angelfire.com/country/ven...koBasques.html
    http://jandacek.com/proto-slavic-con...-ten-counting/
    http://www.korenine.si/zborniki/zbor...linguistic.pdf

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