Guide to Hungarian phenotypes (by regions)

[blogen]

Agreed with alpine and baltid, but I don't think, they have a significant nordic population.
Furthemore, there are plenty of dinarics and norics.

The Nordic race is rare in Hungary, since its proportion is only 0,4%, but there are 2,5% Alpinids and the Eastbaltid is common with 4,5%.

[Mortimer]

The Nordic race is rare in Hungary, since its proportion is only 0,4%, but there are 2,5% Alpinids and the Eastbaltid is common with 4,5%.

but there are many blonde hungarians like stears, what are they? what is stears he could be nordic?

some hungarian singer i like

[blogen]

but there are many blonde hungarians like stears, what are they? what is stears he could be nordic?

Stears is a troll, nobody knows how s/he/it looks. And the blondness is rare too in Hungary, since this is the situation in the Fischer-Saller scale:

red (I-VI): 0,3%
blond (A-L): 1%
intermediate (M-O): 1,8%
brown-black: 96,9%

The fake blonds are common only.

[Mortimer]

Stears is a troll, nobody knows how s/he/it looks. And the blondness is rare too in Hungary, since this is the situation in the Fischer-Saller scale:

red (I-VI): 0,3%
blond (A-L): 1%
intermediate (M-O): 1,8%
brown-black: 96,9%

The fake blonds are common only.

i cant quiete believe that my early childhood best friend was a voivodina hungarian and he is fealid with dirty blonde hair and blue eyes

[Aldaris]

The Nordic race is rare in Hungary, since its proportion is only 0,4%, but there are 2,5% Alpinids and the Eastbaltid is common with 4,5%.

It largely depends on whose definition are you using. If you'd have asked Coon, he'd tell you, Hungary is full of central european alpinids. I know, you're a supporter of the theory, that there is some turanid race in Hungary, which can be (although metrically similar to alpine) distinguished from an alpine cluster, forming another cluster. I've already explained on another thread, this makes no sense genetically. Turns out you cannot simply distinguish alpines from alleged turanids because of a huge overlap with Austrians, Czechs, Slovakians and certain Germans. In the other words, if Hungarians do have a significant portion of alleged turanid race, then a large amount of Austrians, Czechs, Slovakians and certain Germans would have to be turanid aswell.

Pure east baltid estimate sounds about right.

[blogen]

i cant quiete believe that my early childhood best friend was a voivodina hungarian and he is fealid with dirty blonde hair and blue eyes

The light eyes is common, the distribution between the Hungarians in the Martin-Schulz scale:

light (1a-4a): 19,5%
mixed (4b-8/10): 30,7%
dark (9/11-16): 49,8%

And 1+1,8% blond or intermediate blond/brown is not extremly rare.

[Aldaris]

but there are many blonde hungarians like stears, what are they? what is stears he could be nordic?

some hungarian singer i like

Blonde Hungarians are mostly baltids or norics.

[Stears]

Stears is a troll, nobody knows how s/he/it looks. And the blondness is rare too in Hungary, since this is the situation in the Fischer-Saller scale: red (I-VI): 0,3% blond (A-L): 1% intermediate (M-O): 1,8% brown-black: 96,9% The fake blonds are common only.

If the blondes are rare in Hungary (not in your alföld cumania which is romanian-serbian mix) than blondes are rare in Bavaria too. You cumans are mix of romanian serbian migrants after the great turkish war: (for other users: use google translator) http://www.sulinet.hu/oroksegtar/dat...es_vallasi.htm

That's why you have weird wog look in Hungary.

[Stears]

These fake Cumans wanted to establish an own separate independent "Cuman Republic" in Europe after the WW1, they wanted to get weapons to fight against Hungarians, however their attempt remained unsuccessful: (USE: google translator) http://www.halasitukor.hu/index.php/...en-kiskunsagot

[blogen]

It largely depends on whose definition are you using. If you'd have asked Coon, he'd tell you, Hungary is full of central european alpinids. I know, you're a supporter of the theory, that there is some turanid race in Hungary, which can be (although metrically similar to alpine) distinguished from an alpine cluster, forming another cluster. I've already explained on another thread, this makes no sense genetically. Turns out you cannot simply distinguish alpines from alleged turanids because of a huge overlap with Austrians, Czechs, Slovakians and certain Germans. In the other words, if Hungarians do have a significant portion of alleged turanid race, then a large amount of Austrians, Czechs and certain Germans would have to be turanid aswell.

Pure east baltid estimate sounds about right.

Nobody asked Coon, since Coon's "Hungarian" sample was partially ethnic German and even this is extremly outdated. We have a correct anthropological survey from the second half of the 20th century. The locations of this survey:



The size was over thirty thousands peoples. The great Hungarian anthropologist: dr. Henkey Gyula academician and his collegues surveyed the ethnic Hungarian and non Hungarian populations. This more than thirty thousands people were the ethnic Hungarians without the new assimilants (non Hungarian origin surname, etc.). So this is an absolute representative survey, basically the facts about the Hungarians from the late 20th century (men/women):

height (1): 170/157,87
length of the head (1): 188,22/179,32
breadth of the head (3): 160,32/154,05
breadth of the forehead (4): 113,35/109,93
zygomatic width (6): 146,3/139,32
morphological facial height (18): 121,23/111,39
bigonial breadth (8): 112,97/105,89
nasal height (21): 53,69/49,78
nasal breadth (13): 36/32,78
cephalic index (3:1): 85,22/85,95
facial index (18:6): 82,93/80,01
nasal index (13:21): 67,28/80,01

Eye color (Martin–Schultz):
dark (9-16): 43,5%/49,8%
mixed (4b-8): 30,9%/30,7%
light (1a-4a): 25,5%/19,5%

Hair color (Fischer–Saller):
brown-black (P-Y): 97,7%/96,9%
transitional: (M-O): 1,2%/1,8%
blond: (A-L): 0,8%/1%
red: (I-IV): 0,3%/0,3%

Turanid: 31,4%
Pamirid: 12%
Dinarid: 5,8%
Near Eastern: 5,3%
Eastbaltid: 4,5%
Eastern Med.: 4,1%
Alpine: 2,5%
Lapponoid: 1,7%
Mongoloid: 0,9%
Gracil Mediterranid: 0,8%
Nordic: 0,4%
Cromagnonid: 0,4%
Atlanto-Mediterranid: 0,1%
Uralid: 0,1%
unidentifiable: 30% (extraordinarily mixed)

so basically:
~4% whites
~28% swarthies
~68% swarthy not clear Caucasoid

The available parts of the publications: henkeydata.rar (mostly pdf files) 121,5MB