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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulla View Post
    It's sure that toponym Bergamo is not of Germanic origin. It was already attested in Classic Latin as Bergomum.

    Bergomum has Indoeuropean roots (Celts, Italics...). And *bherg- (*bherg'h-) is a PIE word meaning "mountain".
    Yes, Bergamo was established by Celtic Gauls, and it is related to Turkic berk.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    Yes, Bergamo was established by Celtic Gauls, and it is related to Turkic berk.
    The founders of Bergamo were probably Ligures, is an ancient city, more than Milan or Brescia. For sure this place-name has an Indoeuropean origin, related to the hills, the mountains, cause is built on the top of a hill, like many Indoeuropean castra, and is sorrounded by hills and mountains. Don't seem to me that Turkic term means "mount, hill".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    and it is related to Turkic berk.
    Si, buonanotte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bergamaster View Post
    The founders of Bergamo were probably Ligures, is an ancient city, more than Milan or Brescia.
    I don't know, I have just read this: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergamo#Geschichte

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergamaster View Post
    For sure this place-name has an Indoeuropean origin, related to the hills, the mountains, cause is built on the top of a hill, like many Indoeuropean castra, and is sorrounded by hills and mountains. Don't seem to me that Turkic term means "mount, hill".
    Indo-European yes, but only to a certain point when Turkic preserved the most original meaning like in "Alps". "Alps" comes from Proto-Indo-European *h₂élbʰos, *álbʰos, *albʰós (“white”), concretely meaning "snowy mountains". On the other side "Alp" or "Alıp" is an epic hero or a giant in Turkic folklore, usually noble. In some cases this term could be added to name of real person, such as Almış, Alp Ilutuer, Alp Arslan, Alpamysh. In Tatar and Chuvash folklore "Alıp batır" create hills, shaking out a ground from his bask shoe ("Alıp mountains"). Concretely "Alp" means "to capture, conquer the mountains; warrior, hero, brave; giant, landlord" etc. In Indo-European we have also another case with the complete opposite meaning "weak, small" *alp.

    Anyway, we have the same Turkic-Altaic onomastic case ("mighty, brave") within Proto-Indo-European *bʰergʰ- (“height”).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulla View Post
    Si, buonanotte.
    si, buongiorno!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leliana View Post
    The truth is that Italians are entirely unable to achieve anything. Whereever they go to wage a war, they often lose in the most painful and embarrassing way. Mussolini wanted to copy Hitler and got his ass beaten on the Balkans, around Greece and in Northern Africa. Germany had to come for the rescue more than once. It were Wehrmacht paratroopers who had to rescue Benito Mussolini from Allied imprisonment.
    Again...
    The only thing you do in every thread is bring up italian failures during WWII and nothing else. Why you don't talk about Germans who betrayed the Russians and your other failures during that period?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leliana
    (1) Since 9 AD in the Battle of Teutoburg Forest (where we defeated the best Roman legions),
    (2) you didn't even make one decisive victory against German/Austrian people.
    (3) Almost 2000 years of entire failure.
    (1)
    And then Germanicus crushed your pathetic rebellion.
    https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spediz...a_di_Germanico

    (2)
    (3)

    The most pathetic reply a person can make. Only God knows who much shit has been told in this comment. You're pathetic kartoffel

    Here some of our failures:
    (against HRE):
    - https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battaglia_di_Legnano
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Parma
    - The battles of Matilda of Tuscany against Henry IV and the investiture controvery which lead to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_to_Canossa
    - https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasione_del_Cadore

    (against France, Spain and HRE):
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Padua
    - https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assedio_di_Treviso
    - https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assedio_di_Torino
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Assietta

    (against Napoleon):
    - https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spediz...se_in_Sardegna

    (against Austria and Germany):
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Days_of_Milan
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_...f_Monte_Grappa
    - https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battaglia_del_solstizio
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Monte_Grappa
    - https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battag...ittorio_Veneto
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_days_of_Naples

    (against Turks):
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italo-Turkish_War

    Quote Originally Posted by Leliana
    It were Germans who continued some achievements of the old Roman Empire: In the Holy Roman Empire of German nation. Not in Rome, not in Italy, but northernmost of the Alpes.
    Indeed you're the ones who invented Baroque, Renaissance innovations, music terms and instruments etc...

    You only caused the beginning of Dark Ages by attacking and betrayin your Roman masters... if it wasnt for Italy who begun the Renaissance period we would still walking with straw shoes and still living in straw houses

    Then again you ended the Renaissance era with your barbarian behaviour (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Rome_(1527))... if this means to bring achievements in Europe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfieb View Post
    German is an official language in Luxembourg, too, and their native local language (Luxembourgish) is closer to German dialects than it is to Dutch.
    Who claims its closer to Dutch? Luxembourgish is Moselle--Frankish dialect, thus a German dialect, though influenced by French.

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