Are the British really much darker than other Northern Europeans?

[Tooting Carmen]

That seems to be the common belief in the anthro world, and appears to be especially advocated by certain members here like 'Melonhead' and 'Bloody'. Even so, many overlook the fact there are Dutch people like these:

And Germans like these:

And how about these decidedly non-Nordic Scandinavians?

[FeederOfRavens]

Darker phenotypes are not found in the same quantities in the Netherlands and Scandinavia as Britain.

[Tooting Carmen]

Darker phenotypes are not found in the same quantities in the Netherlands and Scandinavia as Britain.

I agree, but my point is that I think some people exaggerate the disparity.

[FeederOfRavens]

I agree, but my point is that I think some people exaggerate the disparity.

That's true. "Bloody" has already revealed his aggravations against the British when he called them an ugly people.

[Tooting Carmen]

That's true. "Bloody" has already revealed his aggravations against the British when he called them an ugly people.

Melonhead also regularly trolls the British, saying that Whites in Australia and even the US are 'purer' than them and that the British have got darker through mass mixing with Jews, South Asians, Blacks, Southern Europeans etc.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Pure british are mostly blonde or light brown hair, and blue eyes. Some of their dark hair they get from ireland. Most of it comes from jews, italians, french, poles, indians and a million other immigrants in the last 5 centuries.

When anthropologists surveyed england in 1800s black hair was maybe 1-2% in any rural areas and it was virtually 100% light eyes. Now black hair is about 40%, brown eyes about 25%. It's pretty easy to do the math. Even scando countries today are darker than england used to be not that long ago.

That's probably where the bad teeth come from as well. You never see that in Irish people, or colonial americans.

[Tooting Carmen]

Pure british are mostly blonde or light brown hair, and blue eyes. Some of their dark hair they get from ireland. Most of it comes from jews, italians, french, poles, indians and a million other immigrants in the last 5 centuries.

When anthropologists surveyed england in 1800s black hair was maybe 1-2% in any rural areas and it was virtually 100% light eyes. Now black hair is about 40%, brown eyes about 25%. It's pretty easy to do the math. Even scando countries today are darker than england used to be not that long ago.

That's probably where the bad teeth come from as well. You never see that in Irish people, or colonial americans.

Black hair 40%? If you take out immigrants it is nothing like that ffs. Besides, the darker types have always been around. Shakespeare and Dickens were hardly Nordic gods, were they, yet there is no evidence of them having any foreign ancestry. In any case, mass immigration from outside Europe has only really occurred since 1947 when the Windrush arrived, and there was no major European invasion since the Normans in 1066, and all subsequent Euro immigration was pretty small-scale. Quite simply, you are just trolling.

[Tooting Carmen]

Pure british are mostly blonde or light brown hair, and blue eyes. Some of their dark hair they get from ireland. Most of it comes from jews, italians, french, poles, indians and a million other immigrants in the last 5 centuries.

When anthropologists surveyed england in 1800s black hair was maybe 1-2% in any rural areas and it was virtually 100% light eyes. Now black hair is about 40%, brown eyes about 25%. It's pretty easy to do the math. Even scando countries today are darker than england used to be not that long ago.

That's probably where the bad teeth come from as well. You never see that in Irish people, or colonial americans.

Apart from Alistair Cooke, who I myself have said looks part-South Asian, which of these cricket players looks anything other than 'pure British' to you? http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...d-cricket-team

[Jackson]

Pure british are mostly blonde or light brown hair, and blue eyes. Some of their dark hair they get from ireland. Most of it comes from jews, italians, french, poles, indians and a million other immigrants in the last 5 centuries.

When anthropologists surveyed england in 1800s black hair was maybe 1-2% in any rural areas and it was virtually 100% light eyes. Now black hair is about 40%, brown eyes about 25%. It's pretty easy to do the math. Even scando countries today are darker than england used to be not that long ago.

That's probably where the bad teeth come from as well. You never see that in Irish people, or colonial americans.

Well the last study looking at shared IBD genetic segments in Europeans found that we are not outbred compared to large neighboring places like Germany and France (but of course more so than smaller, less major nations), and that most of the shared segments with foreigners in recent times were with the Irish (which makes sense of course). Also, I've seen a number of people's results from additional 3rd party runs (which use basically the same technology afaik), and we basically share the vast majority of our recent segments with other British people and with other northwest & nearby Europeans. And plus, if we were subject to much larger amounts of influx from other areas of Europe it would show up in that we would be out of place compared to neighboring populations, which we aren't. So what you say must be true of all northwest Europeans, or none of them. Certainly there have been people from other areas of Europe becoming part of our population - but that is mostly urban and also not enough to make more than a minor genetic change. I have also seen Irish people and colonial Americans with bad teeth, and a many, many British people with very good teeth.

[Black Wolf]

My aunt is a good example of a person of 100% Irish/British Isles descent who is dark complexioned by Northern European standards. She has black hair, deep brown eyes and tans very easily. Some people even mistake her for being Native Canadian here lol.