Are British and Irish people darker than Central&Eastern europeans ( hair and eye color wise?)

[Septentrion]

You think Oppenheimer's theory is just bunk? Others have collaborated on Oppenheimer's thesis. The Celtic and Germanic influence is not as significant as previously thought. The rough estimate is that Germanic dna is about 30% in the UK overall (with the highest estimate being 50% in the eastern England like Norfolk, Essex, Suffolk, etc.).

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/st...he_british.php

http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/fe...ritishancestry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEL7nCM5itg (Part 1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFQiuGvxMd0 (Part 2)

The fantasy that a lot of native Brits have of being some magical Celtic and Nordic race is just that...fantasy. Most native Brits are descended from Neolithic groups originated in northern Iberia. They resembled modern-day Basques and northern Spaniards.

False. The Iberian genetic contribution to the genetic make-up of Britons and Irish people is minimal, especially with the English. Nearly 40% of the modern English genome came from the Anglo-Saxons alone. So there is no fantasy there! Modern Celtic populations of Ireland, Scotland and Wales are closest genomic ally to the Bronze Age populations of Europe who introduced the gene for lactose tolerance, Indo-European speech like Celtic languages to Europe! Those Bronze Age people have their origins in Eastern Europe ( Russia and Ukraine) reached the British Islands by way of Central Europe not Basque Country.

[Septentrion]

Nonsense! By the way, a 2004 survey on the Dutch population show that at least 50% of women highlight their hair to make it appear blond/blonder. Due to the fact that among Dutch men, the preference for a blonde female is higher than for a brunette one. So are you going to say that blond hair is not common in the Netherlands too? We all know that hair usually darkens from childhood to adulthood. Bleaching of hair doesn't happen only in Britain, all over Europe including Eastern Europe. Britain is similar to countries in Northern and parts of Central and Western Europe.

[Septentrion]

I think brits tend to be darker haired (and probably eyed too) than most non balkan eastern and central europeans.

Are they?

What you personally think, is your opinion. You are for sure entitled to your own opinion. However, the truth is that British people have tendency to have light hair(red+blond+light brown/auburn shades) , light eyes and a very fair skin complexion(Celtic complexion), sharp facial features. They are definitely not darker Central Europeans who are usually "swarthy" in complexion. However, Southern Europeans are darker than Central Europeans.

[Septentrion]

I personally think Brits have darker hair (in adulthood) than most central-eastern europeans , but the eye color is similar.
Irish on the other hand are even more remarkably darker haired in comparison, but could be slighty lighter eyed.

Irish? For your information, the Connacht region in Western Ireland has a higher frequency for blue eyes (53%) than the Denmark's national average (50.9%), as well as Leinster (52%) in Eastern Ireland.

[Septentrion]

Most English people are not Nordics. Yes, the English speak a Germanic language but that doesn't mean they are phenotypically/genetically Nordic. Stephen Oppenheimer wrote a book saying that native British people are largely descended from Neolithic people of northern Spain before the onslaught of Celtic Indo-Europeans. The Celtic and Nordic admixture is quite small overall and most native Brits are basically paler-skinned Mediterraneans. I know some native English people don't like to hear this but their ancestors were not principally Germanic but non-Indo-European Neolithic. Even in the most "Germanic" region of the UK (Essex) the Germanic component is thought to be only 50% among the native English.

Update yourself!!!!!!!

[Septentrion]

Brits are certainly darker than western scandinavians, (Icelanders and Western Norwegians), even british members themselves would agree on that..
British hair colour tend to be mousy/auburn or darkbown/black, Western norwegians are on average more on the Darkblond/lightbrown or just plain blonde hair with the odd chesnut/darkbrown here and there

Mousy hair = light brown with grayish tint.
Auburn hair = reddish brown
So both hair colour are not dark hair, O.K.

[FeederOfRavens]

Septentrion is an emotional lesbian.

[Septentrion]

Septentrion is an emotional lesbian.

Excuse me? Who are you calling emotional? It would have been better for you to hush it, when you don't know anything. I don't even know how sexual orientation comes up on this thread! I fully don't know your intention. If you are a Lesbian, just to let you know that I am not one.

[Odin]

None of the above.

[The Blade]

None of the above.