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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahaman View Post
    Swarthy Zingaro. It's time to stop abusing Australian welfare system.
    Fucking parasite.
    Zingaro is an Italian word. No Kazakh or Anglo would use it. Now stop abusing cocaine and cannabis, ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by otachi View Post
    Zingaro is an Italian word. No Kazakh or Anglo would use it. Now stop abusing cocaine and cannabis, ok?
    Doesn't matter. You're still swarthy Zingaro.
    Now stop eating pizza and get back to work, you lazy pleb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    State of Presidi, even less than a microstate, was created in 1557, when Renaissance was already in late stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulla View Post
    State of Presidi, even less than a microstate, was created in 1557, when Renaissance was already in late stage.
    Of course. Only Al-fieb could understand that I was linking the Spanish rule in Tuscany with the Renaissance
    I just posted that of the Presidios because he, who is an ignorant, had asked when Spain had ruled Tuscany...
    He bypassed all the information that I brought about the patronage of the Spaniards in Italy, by the way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve-O View Post
    Italy IMO. The colonization of Latin America doesn't compare to the Roman empire at all..
    Why does not compare? colonization of Latin America was an amazing and incredible event, in a whole continent which is three or four times the size of Europe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve-O View Post
    Even Columbus was an Italian.
    Colon missed completely in his predictions. The merit of the Spaniards, more than discover America mistakenly, was to conquer and colonize it, with little means to do it, I add.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bahaman View Post
    Italians shouldn't claim Rome. This is ridiculous.
    Spaniards managed to conquer most of Latin American, true, but still humilation at the hands of Moors makes their history less superior to that of Italy. Fact
    Perhaps dont you know that Moors also ruled Italy?
    Perhaps dont you know that Spain ruled Italy?
    Perhaps dont you know that Spaniards never were ruled by Moors? have you ever heard that the Reconquista was?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bahaman View Post
    Swarthy Zingaro. It's time to stop abusing Australian welfare system.
    Fucking parasite.
    hahaha how ironic... and what are you if not another parasite immigrant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lábaru View Post
    The conquistadores also carried some panzer tanks.
    I stated the facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Svipdag View Post
    I stated the facts.
    Cantabrians and Celtiberians warriors.




    Roman Legions.



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    In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
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    See this interesting info I found around...
    "[SIZE=3][UNESCO

    Euskera, Part of Mankind's Heritage

    In what is perhaps the greatest anachronism and most glaring injustice in today's cultural order, Euzkara or Euskera, the language spoken by the Basque people, has never even been heard of by the majority of the planet's population, despite the fact that all of them speak in languages that are related, more or less distantly, to this age-old tongue. Or at least, so say the philological studies carried out over the last century, whose conclusions have been categorically confirmed by the results of Molecular Biology analysis.

    Phrases such as ?The Basques are, without a doubt, the most indigenous people in Europe' or ?The Basque are the only direct descendents of the Cro-Magnons, and as such, the first modern humans to inhabit Europe' have regularly appeared in the conclusions of all genetic studies carried out over the last ten years with the aim of reconstructing humanity's family tree on the basis of DNA analysis. The reliability of these statements is supported by the fact that both those studies focusing on the origin of language and those analysing the origin of geographical names have reached the same conclusion, and by the fact that the greatest density of Palaeolithic archaeological sites discovered in the world are concentrated in the central and eastern part of the Cantabrian Coastline, the traditional homeland of the Basque people. From all this, we can conclude that if the Cro-Magnons are our only known direct ancestors, and the Basques are their closest descendents, then, by inference, the Basque people are the oldest on Earth.

    In 1995 the National Geographic published an article which dubbed the Basque people, ?The first family of Europe' and at the end of 2002, Scientific American and its affiliates all round the world widely disseminated the findings of both the genetic and philological studies carried out by European scientists confirming the thesis that had first been postulated in 1984 regarding the link between the Cantabrian region and all the inhabitants of Europe. And more recently, in September 2006, scientists from Oxford University concluded that all the inhabitants of the British Isles originate from the basque country.

    Given the magnitude of this issue and its importance in the cultural order for all the peoples on this planet, we believe that the time has come for the United Nations, through its cultural body UNESCO, to take matters in hand and, without tying the initiative to the request of any national government, to initiate procedures to formally recognise Euskera or the Basque language as part of Mankind's Intangible Heritage. Now that the primogeniture of the Basque language over all other languages in the world has been proven, and now that it has therefore been demonstrated that said language constitutes a most remote and valuable part of Mankind's Cultural Heritage, it is both absurd and unacceptable that the International Community that UNESCO represents continues to be ignorant of this fact, and therefore fails to adopt the measures required to, on the one hand, protect the said language, and, on the other, to promote a wide range of studies and research into the field. Given the relationship that exists between the Basque language and all other languages spoken today in the world, such studies would no doubt give rise to all kinds of interesting discoveries regarding the genesis of the different peoples on our planet and the dawn of mankind's intellectual journey. Such discoveries would, in turn, vastly enrich the culture of all humanity.

    It is absurd that languages such as Latin and Greek continue to be studied in many parts of the world, while Humanity's true mother tongue remains forgotten. What is the point of disseminating two dead languages such as Latin and Greek when the language from which both derive, i.e. Euskera, unlike its children, not only remains alive, but also retains all its energy and age-old vitality? Similarly, it is utterly deplorable that political interests have been allowed to interfere with the appreciation and valuation of this language, which constitutes a treasure for all mankind and which will, no doubt, cause an enormous amount of general astonishment when the wealth of information it contains regarding the origins of not just western, but universal culture, is eventually made known.

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    If you would like to make a decisive contribution to ensuring that the Basque language is declared part of Mankind's Intangible Heritage, a title denied to date due to both political interests and pure and simple ignorance, add your signature to the list below and help us spread the word by distributing copies of this Manifesto to your friends and family. You have our undying gratitude in the name of science, culture and truth. http://euskararenjatorria.eu/part%20of%20mankinds.htm

    This is for the fooled morons who still think the ancient iberians/basques(ancient greeks and romans) arent the cradle of civilization./SIZE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-TheOpportunist View Post
    See this interesting info I found around...

    If you would like to make a decisive contribution to ensuring that the Basque language is declared part of Mankind's Intangible Heritage, a title denied to date due to both political interests and pure and simple ignorance, add your signature to the list below and help us spread the word by distributing copies of this Manifesto to your friends and family. You have our undying gratitude in the name of science, culture and truth. http://euskararenjatorria.eu/part%20of%20mankinds.htm

    This is for the fooled morons who still think the ancient iberians/basques(ancient greeks and romans) arent the cradle of civilization./SIZE]
    No, the world's oldest civilizations isnt located in Europe but rather in the Middle East and Asia. The fertile crescent, which composes mesopotamia, levant, and egypt, is considered to be the cradle of civilization. Writing, Agriculture, Laws, Literature and etc were born in those places, but you could say that Greece is the cradle of western civilization though.

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