Spain vs Italy: who has had the most illustrious history?

[Panormus]

Italy without a doubt

[Ulla]

In fact, modern Europe is essentially the heritage of Germanic kingdoms all over Europe. The Germanic tribes destroyed Rome and created their own realities. Then the most powerful Germanic tribe, the Franks, became expanding. It culminated with a Europe dominated by the Holy Roman Empire (Germany).

Honestly, Germanic tribes without Roman-Greek heritage could not leave any lasting legacy to Europe. Holy Roman Empire.

The Franks, especially the Salian Franks, were heavily Romanized.

[Loki]

Holy Roman Empire.

= Germany

[Ulla]

= Germany

Not only Germany in a strict sense, but even very little portions of France, whole Belgium and whole North-Central Italy except the Republic of Venice.

[Loki]

Not only Germany in a strict sense, but even very little portions of France, whole Belgium and whole North-Central Italy except the Republic of Venice.

True, but you can't compare it with the modern borders of Germany, which are much smaller. And the part of north Italy included was the Germanic Lombardia.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

A pretty dumb comment since the Roman institutions persisted and were used by the new rulers along with their own!

Hai ragione, ma sappi che io trovo questo thread molto sciocco. Non fa senso debbatere una cosa cosi tanto ovvia come il fatto che la storia italiana sia molto piu illustra a quella iberica, anche se e vero ma noi non dobbiamo cadere in queste trappole di thread che soltanto sono state create per trollarci.

[Foxy]

That pretty much depends on when you consider that their histories as countries begin.

History of Italy as it is taught in Italian schools starts from the Greek colonization of southern Italy, the Italic, Latin and Etruscan culture of central Italy and the Celts of northern Italy. Believe or not we study all the three cultures. But before we are briefly introduced to Greek and Egyptian cultures to have an idea of what was happening before in the Mediterranean.

Italian history program is very long (5 years) and it so divided:
- prehistory until the end of Greece
- Rome
- Middle Age
- Renaissance and modern history
- The unification of Italy, the two World Wars and the post war years.

[Foxy]

= Germany

The capital of the Holy Roman Empire was Aquileia, Italy. The Holy Roman Empire included also central Italy until Abruzzo (included).

[Immortal Technique]

I don't think Loki wants to troll italians,and if he ,this shit is funny,how butthurt people can be

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Ma quanti thread di piu ci si vogliono per finirla una volta per tutte?