What is Europe? And who is European?

[Nor56]

Once again, the Bulgarian empire could not have been a successor to Rome because a) they were at constant war with Constantinople, b) they collapsed whilst Constantinople still existed, and c) they weren't Roman. And that's even if we consider Moscow to be 'the second Tarnovo.'.

I'll will read about it. It was as one example for which you accept the answer. But if you follow the logic, it did not prevent the Russians war with Byzantium, to its attenuation where Russian prince seized the moment. The Orthodox faith is central to the Byzantine representations about its identity and what distinguishes them from the "barbarians". But Prince Vladimir took the form of Byzantine control, it subsequently affected the Baptism of Russia. Adoption of a new faith instead of paganism.

Unless Moscow acquired the Libraries of Rome, becomes Greek Orthodox and hosts the Patriarch of Constantinople it has as much claim to being the so-called Third Rome as Addis Ababa

Technically no, but to deny the existence of this influince, it is impossible.
This idea has existed in Russian tsars and above my comment about form of government that Rus has changed in management.

[Longbowman]

I'll will read about it. It was as one example for which you accept the answer. But if you follow the logic, it did not prevent the Russians war with Byzantium, to its attenuation where Russian prince seized the moment. The Orthodox faith is central to the Byzantine representations about its identity and what distinguishes them from the "barbarians". But Prince Vladimir took the form of Byzantine control, it subsequently affected the Baptism of Russia. Adoption of a new faith instead of paganism.




Technically no, but to deny the existence of this influince, it is impossible.
This idea has existed in Russian tsars and above my comment about form of government that Rus has changed in management.

Right, but what I'm saying is, if the argument boils down to religion, then Moscow is equal to Addis Ababa in terms of descent.

[Nor56]

It looks to the West and sees Europe.
It looks to the East and it sees the Pacific Ocean.

Sounds to me like Russia is more Asian than not.

Sounds like as European Russia which won Asia.

[Stears]

Do not forget the xenophobia of Orthodox church. Orthodox = Eurasian civilization.

[Nor56]

Right, but what I'm saying is, if the argument boils down to religion, then Moscow is equal to Addis Ababa in terms of descent.

Let we together recognize. Russian rulers, learned a lot about civilization and took part of this fruit for his future empire, after Byzantium in the light faded and disappeared.

The rest а beautiful interpretation., it's affair for poets and historians.

[Nor56]

Do not forget the xenophobia of Orthodox church. Orthodox = Eurasian civilization.

Asians hates Orthodox and as well other Christian religion.

[Hochmeister]

Is a ridiculous concept. So what if one Greek princess was forced to marry a dirty Rurikid barbarian? Their line went extinct in 1598 anyway.

Moscow, Novgorod, etc. weren't even in the Roman Empire.

When Rus converted into Byzantine Christianity, the Russian grand duke became an official vassal of the East Roman Emperor and was given a position in the court of East Roman Empire.

Culturally Russia = part of the Byzantine civilization.

For your information Russian princesses married European dukes as well. Once a Russian princess became the Queen of France.

No Romans ever used ugly Cyrillic alphabet. Turks use Roman alphabet. Greeks use Greek alphabet.

Cyrillic = modified Greek alphabet. Just try to read medieval Bzantine texts, this pronunciation completely passed into Slavic letters.
Chinese use Roman alphabet as well, so what?

[SKYNET]

Asians hates Orthodox and as well other Christian religion.

there is a significant high number of orthodox population among asians as well. Btw, why should asians hate orthodox since all asians aren't similar to each other, if you don't want to consider them as if they are?

[Hochmeister]

Is a ridiculous concept

Russia was the only free, non-occupied Orthodox country. Since then Russian diplomacy was doing its best to protect Eastern Christians, sending them money and other support. That's why it was called the Third Rome, since Rome was HQ of Christianity etc.

[LightHouse89]

I don't understand how you can make so many assumptions about a person you only know over the internet. What makes you so sure I don't know what living in a Chechen community is like? Sure I might have been a baby when I left Chechnya, but I still spent the next 16 years of my life living in a homogeneous Chechen community before I ever came to the UK. I am neither westernised nor British influenced, all you can claim is that I am British educated.

People of foreign ancestry didn't join existing teips they formed new ones so they could be represented in political areas of life. My teip is one of the oldest in Chechnya and is undisputedly of Chechen origin. Not one person in my ancestral mountain village looks anything like what you imagine a typical Chechen to look like.

Is a teip similar to a clan in Gaellic culture? I know in Ireland it is disappeared as in Wales but Scotland it is still a practice. [Here they still have clans but mostly in rural places like appalachia or rural maine].