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    If the German Reich and Austria-Hungary had merged into a single European superstate, would've it had made any difference during WW1? Discuss.

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    The war would have been longer, but I think they would have lost the war even with this unity.
    Maybe avoiding to sink the Lusitania and to piss off the americans (with the russian surrender too) they could have won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bard View Post
    Maybe avoiding to sink the Lusitania and to piss off the americans (with the russian surrender too) they could have won.
    The Americans would have found some other reason to join in the war, don't worry...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daos View Post
    The Americans would have found some other reason to join in the war, don't worry...
    Well could be, and in anycase even if not fighting directly before the lusitania event they were helping england with many goods (weapons first of all I suppose)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bard View Post
    Well could be, and in anycase even if not fighting directly before the lusitania event they were helping england with many goods (weapons first of all I suppose)
    The Lusitania was carrying ammo, that is why it was sunk!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
    If the German Reich and Austria-Hungary had merged into a single European superstate, would've it had made any difference during WW1? Discuss.

    It was and is not favourable. I don't like multiethnical states. Truth be told, Austria-Hungary was a monstrosity. Austria belongs to Germany and Hungary is a nation for itself. An alliance between Germany and Hungary? Sure, why not? But no shared national territory.

    And pardon my French, but Germany hasn't lost WW1 on the field. The fact of the matter is that the Western front wasn't moving in any direction - stalemate - and situated on French territory whereas the Eastern front was at peace after the treaty of Brest-Litowsk. Our forces and leadership received a dagger thrust from within: The red uprising and strikes of socialist and communist forces and workers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svanhild View Post
    It was and is not favourable. I don't like multiethnical states. Truth be told, Austria-Hungary was a monstrosity. Austria belongs to Germany and Hungary is a nation for itself. An alliance between Germany and Hungary? Sure, why not? But no shared national territory.
    What is stopping you from assimilating the non-Germans? If the Central Powers won WW1, A-H could've carried out a policy of Germanization and thus carve out an even greater German empire.
    And pardon my French, but Germany hasn't lost WW1 on the field. The fact of the matter is that the Western front wasn't moving and situated on French territory whereas the Eastern front was at peace. Our forces and leadership received a dagger thrust from within: The red revolution of socialist and communist forces.
    Pretty much, plus the aid of the Americans tipped the balance of power in favor of the Allied powers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
    What is stopping you from assimilating the non-Germans? If the Central Powers won WW1, A-H could've carried out a policy of Germanization and thus carve out an even greater German empire.
    Blood is thicker than language. I consider Hungarians as close friends but they are not Germans. If they learn German culture and language they are German-speaking Hungarians who adore German culture. But no Germans. And size doesn't matter that much. Integrity does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svanhild View Post
    Austria belongs to Germany
    Do the Austrian people not have a right to determine their own fate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aequoreus View Post
    Do the Austrian people not have a right to determine their own fate?
    Austrian national referendum on the issue of merging with Germany in 1938:

    99,73% Yes

    Historians concur that the result itself wasn't beautified. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschluss_(Österreich)

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