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    Home-schooled and illiterate

    Source: http://www.salon.com/2012/03/15/home...ium=socialflow

    The religious right calls it the "responsible" choice, but for some kids it means isolation with little education




    In recent weeks, home schooling has received nationwide attention because of Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum’s home-schooling family. Though Santorum paints a rosy picture of home schooling in the United States, and calls attention to the “responsibility” all parents have to take their children’s education into their own hands, he fails to acknowledge the very real potential for educational neglect among some home-schooling families – neglect that has been taking place for decades, and continues to this day.

    While the practice of home schooling is new to many people, my own interest in it was sparked nearly 20 years ago. I was a socially awkward adolescent with a chaotic family life, and became close to a conservative Christian home-schooling family that seemed perfect in every way. Through my connection to this family, I was introduced to a whole world of conservative Christian home-schoolers, some of whom we would now consider “Quiverfull” families: home-schooling conservatives who eschew any form of family planning and choose instead to “trust God” with matters related to procreation.

    Though I fell out of touch with my home-schooled friends as we grew older, a few years ago, I reconnected with a few ex-Quiverfull peers on a new support blog called No Longer Quivering. Poring over their stories, I was shocked to find so many tales of gross educational neglect. I don’t merely mean that they had received what I now view as an overly politicized education with huge gaps, for example, in American history, evolution or sexuality. Rather, what disturbed me were the many stories about home-schoolers who were barely literate when they graduated, or whose math and science education had never extended much past middle school.

    Take Vyckie Garrison, an ex-Quiverfull mother of seven who, in 2008, enrolled her six school-age children in public school after 18 years of teaching them at home. Garrison, who started the No Longer Quivering blog, says her near-constant pregnancies – which tended to result either in miscarriages or life-threatening deliveries – took a toll on her body and depleted her energy. She wasn’t able to devote enough time and energy to home schooling to ensure a quality education for each child. And she says the lack of regulation in Nebraska, where the family lived, “allowed us to get away with some really shoddy home schooling for a lot of years.”

    “I’ll admit it,” she confesses. “Because I was so overwhelmed with my life… It was a real struggle to do the basics, so it didn’t take long for my kids to fall far behind. One of my daughters could not read at 11 years old.”

    At the time, Garrison was taking parenting advice from Quiverfull leaders who deemphasized academic achievement in favor of family values. She remembers one Quiverfull leader saying, “If they can do mathematics perfectly but they have no morals, you have failed them.”

    The implication, she says, was that, “if they’re not doing so well academically, well, then they can catch up on that later. It’s not such a big deal. It was a really convenient way of thinking for me because I wasn’t able to keep up anyway.” This kind of rhetoric, Garrison notes, provided a “high-minded justification for educational neglect. I would not have gotten away with that if I’d had to get my kids tested every year.”

    Over time, Garrison lost faith in her fundamentalist ideology and became aware that her children’s education was being neglected. Eventually all but one of her six younger children ended up entering and excelling in the public school system.

    Why did she stick with home schooling for so long, despite her difficulties? “We were convinced that it would be better for our kids not to have an education than to be educated to become humanists or atheists and to reject God,” Garrison says. “We became so isolated because the Quiverfull lifestyle was so overwhelming we didn’t have time or energy for socialization. So the only people we knew were exactly like us. We were told that the whole point of public school was to dumb down the children and turn them into compliant workers – to brainwash them and indoctrinate them into this godless way of thinking.”

    Garrison believes that home schooling has become so popular with fundamentalist Christians because, “there is an atmosphere of real terror among some evangelicals. They are horrified by the fact that Obama is president, and they see the New Atheist movement as a vocal, in-your-face threat. Plus, they are obsessed with the End Times, and believe that the Apocalypse could happen any day now… They see a demon on every corner.

    “We home-schooled because we wanted to protect our children from what we viewed as the total secularization of America. We listened to people like Rush Limbaugh, who told us that America was in the clutches of evil liberal feminist atheists.”

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    To be fair, I don't get home-schooling
    How would you be able to give sufficient knowledge on many different subjects? People attend schools because they have teachers who spent years becoming highly specialised in one subject only in order to give the best possible teaching. You won't be able to give the same level of support and knowledge - this has the potential to limit a child's progress than any of their peers. Plus school definitely helps improve a child's social skills.

    I am in favour of sending kids to school.

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    Typical propaganda piece from the deceivers of Salon. Home schooled children do better than both public schooled and private schooled children by every possible metric. Some unbelievable anecdotes doesn't change that.

    “We home-schooled because we wanted to protect our children from what we viewed as the total secularization of America. We listened to people like Rush Limbaugh, who told us that America was in the clutches of evil liberal feminist atheists.”

    Which is not even that far from the truth. The last thing responsible parents should do is to send their children to public schools.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benedicta View Post
    To be fair, I don't get home-schooling
    And I'm sure it's not the only thing you don't get.

    How would you be able to give sufficient knowledge on many different subjects?
    The things children learn are very simple for adults. With good educational resources it is no problem at all, as evinced by the better results of home schooling.

    People attend schools because they have teachers who spent years becoming highly specialised in one subject only in order to give the best possible teaching.
    Teachers are usually lazy morons that get paid for doing very little while getting very long vacations, and the modern public education system (the industrial model of education) is very stultifying. But if your goal is to brainwash and make robots of people, then you've chosen the right tool for the job.

    You won't be able to give the same level of support and knowledge - this has the potential to limit a child's progress than any of their peers. Plus school definitely helps improve a child's social skills.
    Wrong on both accounts. Home schooled children do better in either case than children from public or private schools.

    I am in favour of sending kids to school.
    And you're going to tell their parents how to educate their own children?

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    Have to admit, the home schooled kids I came across were usually incredibly smart and performed better than everyone else in HS and college. But they had parents who made sure they got the right type of curriculum.

    You can go to a religious private school and then come of it not knowing nearly as much as some home school kids.

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    I was home-schooled for a few years during my childhood and I enjoyed it. After a few years of it I decided I missed going to school with my friends, so I went back to public school but I didn't like it very much..So, I went to private school. I suggest home-schooling, I think it's great if you have tutors. If you don't have tutors and/or parents educated enough and willing to teach you, you should not be home-schooled. It also requires that you not take your focus off of your schoolwork and get sidetracked with all kinds of other things in and around your home. Children with ADD/ADHD and similar disorders should not home-school. Those who are focused, and determined should look into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLevin View Post
    Typical propaganda piece from the deceivers of Salon. Home schooled children do better than both public schooled and private schooled children by every possible metric. Some unbelievable anecdotes doesn't change that.
    They're about the same, some are better. Home schooling isn't an option for every child however. We should not abandon schools so parents can teach their kids. Most parents wouldn't be able to supply their children with the sufficient knowledge required for university.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methmatician View Post
    They're about the same, some are better. Home schooling isn't an option for every child however. We should not abandon schools so parents can teach their kids. Most parents wouldn't be able to supply their children with the sufficient knowledge required for university.
    There are many different studies on this topic. From my memory all conclude that homeschooled children are significantly better educated than are either publicly schooled children or privately schooled children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikolai View Post
    Children with ADD/ADHD and similar disorders should not home-school. Those who are focused, and determined should look into it.
    I would think it's those children that would benefit most from home schooling. How is one teacher suppose to give support to an entire class and a child with ADHD/ADD? If they were home schooled they could receive the attention and support they couldn't get in a classroom where one teacher has to divide their attention among 20-30 kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLevin View Post
    There are many different studies on this topic. From my memory all conclude that homeschooled children are significantly better educated than are either publicly schooled children or privately schooled children.
    Okay, lets see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methmatician View Post
    Okay, lets see them.
    Here: http://widenerlawreview.org/files/20...ATES_final.pdf

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