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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Yes, the words Atlantic and Atlantis are similar but that's false etymology as the word 'Atlantic' came much after.

    The problem was they thought of the Odyssey as having created Troy, whereas it is clear it does not. It is pretty clear Plato created Atlantis.
    It's not false just because you want it to. Also there's a pretty good chance that the etymology is actually inverted, Alantic ocean named after Atlantis. You also chose to not address the main point I was making: That the Myth (Yes, Myth) of Atantis was constructed as an allegory of civilizational regression, obviously inspired in a period that indeed took part in the Mediterranean , predating Plato, of which many ancient sources reported in their literatures and of which there are tons of archaeological evidence, and that caused the decline,destruction and relocation of many ancient dinasties, tribes, cultures and even kingdoms and empires, as well as the oblivion of very ancient trade routes. One of which happened to be an ancient culture of small city-states in the Atlantic edge of the Mediterranean that traded in crafts and metals with Phoenitia, Egypt and as far as Mittani, spoke a Celtic language and live in stone towns in low-laying riverlands until the sea swallowed it all up before receding and leaving the area turned into a marshland, the cities buried and the culture relocated and reoriented to other parts of the Peninsula.

    Of course Tartessos does not equal Atlantis, but Atlantis was indeed inspired, among other lost cultures (Micene, Mittani), and perhaps predominantly in that biblical land of Tars and the Argantonian Kings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    There are documentaries on Solutrean Theory. It's tempting to believe, but exciting rubbish is still rubbish.
    you just can't compare those two theories, and you know that

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    Is it likely Celts originated in Iberia and not Central Europe? Most scholars still support Central European urheimat.

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    It's false because it's false. There's zero evidence behind this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    It's false because it's false. There's zero evidence behind this.
    except for all the evidence. and all the points you prefer not t address.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ojáncanu View Post
    except for all the evidence. and all the points you prefer not t address.
    Even you can only possibly suggest it's the place a story was inspired from. It's like saying the Midlands are the Shire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Are you saying there aren't midgets with furry toes in Midlands? Cuz if you are...
    The Midlands, the Midlands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uhtred View Post
    So Tartessian turns out to be Celtic after all. Nice.
    This is according to Koch and most disagree with him.

    Since 2009, John T. Koch has argued that Tartessian is a Celtic language and that the texts can be translated.[25][26][27] However, his proposals have been largely rejected by the academic community and the script, which is "hardly suitable for the denotation of an Indo-European language[,] leaves ample room for interpretation."[28] In 2011, in the Old Irish message list, David Stifter, of the National University of Ireland, Maynooth's Department of Early Irish, says that the identification as Celtic relies on features "specifically medieval Irish" rather than Celtic in general,[29] but Koch disagrees.[30]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartessian_language

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Who is this guy that keeps appearing in photoshopped memes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteBear View Post
    Who is this guy that keeps appearing in photoshopped memes?


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_A._Tsoukalos

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