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    What languages do you believe your ancestors have spoken other than your native languages? Especially those that you can't speak or aren't fluent in.

    My father traced his family line to Fujian province, probably all the way to northern China. When his paternal ancestor arrived in Zhejiang, they most likely arrived in the Wenzhou area of southeastern Zhejiang province. Much of the area around southeastern Zhejiang was depopulated, so there were settlers moving in from Fujian province.



    They probably spoke Wenzhou or Taizhou dialect sometime after that before or when they settled in northeastern Zhejiang or still retained their Minnan dialect.

    My maternal grandfather's family traditionally spoke a native variety of Shanghainese, that is one that was less influenced by the later influx of migrants after the mid 19th century. Supposedly that dialect quite close to some dialects spoken in Shanghai's western suburbs and some dialects in northern Zhejiang and southern Jiangsu. But my mother's surname is a surname found in much higher frequency in northern China, indicating that some of my mother's ancestors were northern migrants, most likely from the Central Plains. Maybe before that they might have spoken a late variety of Middle Chinese or some early form of Mandarin.

    Most of my recent relatives, including on my father's side and my maternal grandmother's side were mainly from northeastern Zhejiang who spoke Ningbo dialect. I can understand most of it but I cannot speak it.
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    Brittonic & other Celtic languages, and likely a few spoke Latin or Latin-based languages. Other than that it's probably not important/major.

    I could add other Germanic languages too.

    Well in theory we could keep going back to various millenia old languages but that's going too far perhaps, given we don't know what they were neccesarily.

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    Latin, Ancient Venetic, Ancient Celtic, Picene, Illyric

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    Too many to mention. In the past couple of hundred years only English, German, Yiddish and possibly Spanish, Russian, Polish, Ukrainian, Italian and Arabic, but I speak English, German and Spanish (my German is poor though) anyway.
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    Ingvaeonic Germanic languages (red on map) before the language shift to Istvaeonic (orange on map) happened to most Northern Dutch:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Willem View Post
    Ingvaeonic Germanic languages (red on map) before the language shift to Istvaeonic (orange on map) happened to most Northern Dutch:

    Ingvaeonic Superiority, Nederlands je Frisia.
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    That'd be a dialect of Ancient Greek

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    Latin, Northwest Iberian Celtic languages, Gothic and that's pretty much it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crank View Post
    That'd be a dialect of Ancient Greek
    Living descendant of Spartan dialect.
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