View Poll Results: Which other Northwest South Asian ethnic group are the Pashtuns closest to genetically?

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  • Punjabi Jatts

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  • Kashmiris

    8 61.54%
  • High Caste Himachali's (Himachal Pradesh, very northern India)

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  • Burusho

    4 30.77%
  • Sindhi's

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Thread: POLL: Which other (Northwest) South Asian ethnicity are Pashtuns the closest to genetically?

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    Default POLL: Which other (Northwest) South Asian ethnicity are Pashtuns the closest to genetically?

    70% of the Pashtuns live in Pakistan. The 2nd largest group lives in Afghanistan and form the largest ethnic group there.

    Regions with significant populations
    1) Pakistan 29,342,892 (2012)[4]
    2) Afghanistan 12,776,369 (2012)[5]
    So the question is; which other Northwestern South Asian population are the Pashtuns the closest to GENETICALLY?
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    - Punjabi Jatts
    - Kashmiris
    - High Caste Himachali's (Himachal Pradesh)
    - Sindhi's
    - Burusho
    - other High Caste Northern Hindu Indians




    According to a 2012 study:

    "MDS and Barrier analysis have identified a significant affinity between Pashtun, Tajik, North Indian, and West Indian populations, creating an Afghan-Indian population structure that excludes the Hazaras, Uzbeks, and the South Indian Dravidian speakers. In addition, gene flow to Afghanistan from India marked by Indian lineages, L-M20, H-M69, and R2a-M124, also seems to mostly involve Pashtuns and Tajiks. This genetic affinity and gene flow suggests interactions that could have existed since at least the establishment of the region's first civilizations at the Indus Valley and the Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex."
    source: Haber M, Platt DE, Ashrafian Bonab M, Youhanna SC, Soria-Hernanz DF et al. (2012). "Afghanistan's Ethnic Groups Share a Y-Chromosomal Heritage Structured by Historical Events". PLoS ONE 7 (3): e34288. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0034288. PMC 3314501. PMID 22470552.

    World plots/PCA's.



    Analysis from the paper the graph is from:

    (...) Pashtun are close to the Indo-Aryan cluster, and Hazara are, as expected, near to the Altaic cluster.











    As compared to West Asia/European/Eurasia plots











    I would probably go with Kashmiris myself.

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    Kashmiris I would say

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    Kashmiris. Or maybe himachali N patohari punjabis. In short other mountain People

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    literally obsessed, and for the millionth time, pathans from pakistan and india are clearly different from pashtuns in afghanistan (aside from the tribal ones in pakistan living along the durand)

    Genetic studies do show that pathans of india and pakistan are essentially ~20% south indian and 80% a mix of predominantly west asian and whatever else, and the same genetic studies show that the afghan pashtuns are anywhere from 5-10% south asian with the rest being not south asian, why is this so hard for you to understand? Genetically distinct from north indians, culturally distinct from north indians, linguistically distinct from north indians, phenotypically distinct from north indians aside from SOME overlap that occurs.

    We don't consider ourselves south asian, and neither does anybody else aside from retards like yourself, we consider ourselves to be central asian if anything with a shift to west asian and a shift to south asian, none of us are denying there is a bit of south asian in our gene pool, what we're denying is we're a south asian people and that's more than definitely a fair point - virtually everyone in pakistan and india sees pashtuns as hard headed barbaric invaders with a history of pillaging india, our contribution to south india is basically killing and enslaving them, completely foreign to them other than a dozen of bollywood actors in india whose parent(s) have been from afghanistan.

    I doubt you'll even read this, jatt, since you type like an 8 year old.
    Last edited by scytsar; 12-18-2014 at 09:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnetic View Post
    Kashmiris I would say
    you afghan too bro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scytsar View Post
    literally obsessed, and for the millionth time, pathans from pakistan and india are clearly different from pashtuns in afghanistan (aside from the tribal ones in pakistan living along the durand)

    Genetic studies do show that pathans of india and pakistan are essentially ~20% south indian and 80% a mix of predominantly west asian and whatever else, and the same genetic studies show that the afghan pashtuns are anywhere from 5-10% south asian with the rest being not south asian, why is this so hard for you to understand? Genetically distinct from north indians, culturally distinct from north indians, linguistically distinct from north indians, phenotypically distinct from north indians aside from SOME overlap that occurs.

    We don't consider ourselves south asian, and neither does anybody else aside from retards like yourself, we consider ourselves to be central asian if anything with a shift to west asian and a shift to south asian, none of us are denying there is a bit of south asian in our gene pool, what we're denying is we're a south asian people and that's more than definitely a fair point - virtually everyone in pakistan and india sees pashtuns as hard headed barbaric invaders with a history of pillaging india, our contribution to south india is basically killing and enslaving them, completely foreign to them other than a dozen of bollywood actors in india whose parent(s) have been from afghanistan.

    I doubt you'll even read this, jatt, since you type like an 8 year old.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikh_holocaust_of_1762 Massacre by afghan forces on Sikhs, the durranis defeated thr sikh empire, maybe that's why hate is coming from South asians?

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    OP, another Indian posing as another nationality.

    Begs the question, why are there so many such lunatics coming from the dark nation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    OP, another Indian posing as another nationality.

    Begs the question, why are there so many such lunatics coming from the dark nation?
    Look at my comment above. Maybe that's why? Butthurt? I've been reading the other thread, and it's preposterous. Afghans are clearly different, genetically, phenotypically and culturally. But it does beg the question....why?

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    Hold on...the PCA plots don't even show the afghan people. What the hell? The OP is just posting random pca plots just so he could seem he knows everything about genealogy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FacetheTruth View Post
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikh_holocaust_of_1762 Massacre by afghan forces on Sikhs, the durranis defeated thr sikh empire, maybe that's why hate is comng from South asians?
    N who were ur masters before British n whose name afghan mothers use to pacify errand kids N who is genociding afghans in waziristan n afghanistan u are slaves of our punjabi brothers of pKistan be in Ur liMits
    It's or ur punjabi master will not give food for a week

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