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    I always pronounce it as an Aussie, no idea why lol. Oi, yee filthy bozga bogan yee!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjelouška View Post
    Depends on region. Western Serbs are lighter than proper Serbs, NW Croats are lightest of all South Slavs except Slovenians (equally id say) , Dalmatians are probably on pair with Serbs.
    I would not agree, NW Croats are actually pretty swarthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Magyar/Megyer from the māńćā+[ä]r --> māńć[COLOR="#0000FF"]āOLOR]r és mäńćär. The Hungarian language don't tolerated the vowel disharmony. The two words have same age, two version, but the megyer was a tribal name only, while the magyar is the name of the whole ethnos.
    (māńćā = self name of the Ugrics, är = self name of the Aryans)
    typical blogen propaganda as always The absurdity of blogens logic:

    step 1: "Magy-" means "man"

    step 2: "-ar" suffix means "Aryan"

    But reality looks different:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megyer

    "Megyer is an old Hungarian male given name, derived from Mogyer, the name of the leading Hungarian tribe and has of Finno-Ugric or Turkic origin.[1] Endonym Magyar (for Hungarians) also derived from the tribal name Megyer.[2]"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...79098#Ethnonym

    "The assumed ar element of the word may be either of Ugric or Turkic origin and it probably means "man",[1][64] compare common Proto-Uralic word root *arV ("(younger) brother of mother") which gave Hungarian ara ("bride, brother of the mother"), and the common Proto-Altaic word root *ā́ri, *ḗra ("man") which gave Proto-Turkic *ēr ("man") and probably borrowed into Proto-Mongolic *ere ("male, man").[87] Those who assume that the expression ar originated from a Turkic language, also think that it may refer to a Turkic tribe that joined to a group of the proto-Ugric peoples and thus the two groups formed the Magyar people.[64]"

    And here comes the big logic-problem for blogen: the "-ar" suffix has no meaning with "man" in Iranic languages So, the only solution for him is to proclaim an "Aryan" identity ala Hitleroid, otherwise he must accept the official pseudo-etymology "man man". It becomes quite clear why so called "Aryan" genetic markers are most closely related to Bashkir and Kyrgyz R1a lines (see: Anatoly Klyosov). Hence it is no surprise that the Old Avestan language is quite obvious of Altaic/Turkic nature, as Ruth Stiehl writes!

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/magyar#Hungarian

    The second element -ër "man" is cognate with Finnish yrkö (“man”). It is from Proto-Uralic *irkä or *ürkä (“man, son, boy”)

    With definitions, it is a most active Turkic ethnonym: Suar "Water People", Kyuar (kavar) "Light People", Tatar "Alien People", Khazar "Cliff People", Bulgar "River People", Skir "Saka People", Sarir "Yellow People", Agacheri (Agathsyr) "Forest People", Mishar "Forest People", Biger, Biar, Bilyar "Rich People", Salyr "Rural People", Uigur "Quicky People", Gandar [Herodotus, VII, 66] or Gandyar/Khandyar "Khan People", etc. " (Mirfatyh Zakiev, Origin of Türks and Tatars, Part one: Origin of Türks, Moscow 2003, S.54)

    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    The Székely was not an ethnos name originally. The Székely originated from the szék+ly situation, where the szék was a word onto the autonom administrative unit + "ly" suffix: "peoples of the szék"
    "ly" - "li" - "lu" etc. is a Turkic suffix with the meaning "with, containing". Thousands of settlements in the Turkic world end with this suffix with the meaning "people of".

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-li#Suffix_3


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