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To make matters worse, apparently one of the three dead was pregnant. So it's actually four dead.
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This is bad!I'm speachless
FREEDOM IS NEVER FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Greece has always been a basket case. In effect they are the canary of the European Union.Originally Posted by julie
When trouble is brewing they are the first to see the results.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
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Global welfare state?
Funny huh...
Its the final stage for the next turn of the Plutocratic Oligarchy which has to make a major reform anyway, but not because there are "unbearable welfare states" but unbearable interest rates, speculative bubbles and overcapitalisation, like in every financial-interest rate cycle in the last centuries, with or without social security and welfare states.
Thats the game of the plutocracy and thier fraud.
I just hope what will come, Greece is just a small start, might actually be not even that, since they can further overstretch the financial cycle and keep the people calm that way in most larger states, will be the end of the high finance and the Plutocratic Oligarchy.
As anybody who knows something about that: The next cycle will start not peacefully, there will be dead people and dead people will be anyway. I just hope it will be for good and the plutocrats, including such prominent clans like the Rockefellers and Rothschilds, will be disempowered.
Because the last cycles were always used for crisis, wars and new structures which were in favour of them.
Actually the internet is the only hope because it spreads informations so fast, that its not as easy to cheat the whole public as in the past, especially after the 2nd World War, political correctness and the manipulated mass media started to keep critical, fundamntel opposition voices down everywhere.
As for Greece, I hope just, if they start to try to overturn the system, what I dont think right now, but we might all have hopes, its not being down by mindless Marxists, but those which know what its really about, be the superficially right or left, they must know the background and real national interests on the longer run.
They should learn from Kyrgyzstan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrx49...eature=related
Best all Europeans do, at least if its about how to do it, because if we dont do it in the next years, the means of control and manipulation of the people, in the totalitarian surveillance state, will be much more elaborated and the plutocrats and their menials won't hesitate to use it.
This soft political climate, as if it would be about nothing in the politics of Europe, as there wouldnt be our very future, freedom and social security at stake, must come to an end.
The more radical the climate and the more anger in the people the better. We need that for a real change or we can just clap our hands for the plutocrats, there is really no other choice.
Do we want a change and at least a chance to make it better, or not. And if we want it, we can't trust the major parties and politicians, for sure not the bank managers and plutocrats, but we need a revolutionary atmosphere.
The only thing I real fear is that the plutocrats even calculated that in their plans and for their advantage, like the terrorist panic for bunnies...
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So true. We're the EU's beta-testers...In effect they are the canary of the European Union.
When trouble is brewing they are the first to see the results.
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Crazy stuff. Where does it go from here-will security be stepped up, or do the police not have the power to control the riots? If the police can't maintain control, will they bring in military or police from other parts of the country?
They wouldn't have needed all that if not for going into debt to fund the welfare state.
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Actually in Europe, at least in the FRG, a law was passed allowing forces from other countries to operate in Germany if needed and sending police forces elsewhere.
They just prepare for what will come when the financial-interest cycle will come to an end - which will happen when the plutocrats decide so, at a poing of time in which they think they can control events and get through with their "reforms" against the interests of the people.
Oh yes, the USA being in such a debt because of their great welfare systemThey wouldn't have needed all that if not for going into debt to fund the welfare state.up
That was a good one!
Go back to the history class and learn again. Even long before something like a welfare state existed debts existed and oftentimes the politicians were tricked into them, to get control over them.
The Rothschilds f.e. started to become a great plutocratic clan in Germany, in the corrupted state of Hessen-Kassel.
Its ruler loaned his well-trained army units to those who paid the most. Thats the way they got to America in the war of Independence, you might know that.
The Rothschilds were introduced to the court by a corrupted soul named Buderus, then he started to bring out his first bond. Soon he grew as the exclusive banker of the house of Hessen-Kassel until Napoleon came and he had the money of Hessen-Kassel largely in his hands, with the sovereign away.
He sent his sons to Britain among other nations, where this small bastard bought himself into the ruling class and became big with British war efforts and finally the "bet on Waterloo".
That was one story of the beginning of one of those corrupted families which still are among the highest ranking plutocrats, but the story of corruption and debts in Europe is much older, and became virulent with the founding of the Bank of England.
You can't come out of your debt in a debt-based money system in which the state has to pay interest rates for his own money. That system of financial Capitalism is to its core a sick perversion from the start and completely outdated - if there would be a policy in the interest of the people, by now.
Also the derivate trade being a new bubble which just came up for easier manipulation, maxial profits to the end of the cycle and finally the option to prolong it.
If you dont see that this is a systemic failure which lies much deeper and that a social welfare system and group oriented policy is the only real choice for any decent human being, I'm sorry, you're lost.
The FED-system in the USA must not just implode, it must vanish completely, not being revived in a new form in Europe or all of North America - probably the whole world. It was and is since 1913 like cancer, a dangerous cancer growing in the USA and the Western world.
This is the real problem, not a fair and just economic and social system, which is the base of wealth and a decent life for the people, rather than that perverted Liberalcapitalism of the plutocrats, which is just a threat to it.
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The U.S. is still remarkably liquid if considering it as asset heavy, with the best evidence of this being the fact that markets world-wide are still investing in U.S. futures, commodities and currency. The Trifecta.Oh yes, the USA being in such a debt because of their great welfare system
That was a good one!
As bad as U.S. fiscal policy is, it is, in my opinion, second to none in the world as concerns entitlements that can be removed with little overall change in the quality of life of its citezens. Remove even one plank in the system of any European nation and I bid you welcome to Greece.
Often, in our attempts to show people that they do not know what they believe they do, it is exposed that they lack any identity whatsoever - beyond the belief that they know anything at all.
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http://www.iltasanomat.fi/uutiset/op.asp?id=2129002 exploit the exploitersIt's started... Watch what happens from now on
maybe 500-1000e(?) for a original news article with pics.. but better begin by forcing that contract from them
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The FED does for years now what the EZB is not allowed to, namely buy up its own US-bonds if there is a need!
Thats like a system which eats its own shit, that won't work forever, especially not in a debt based - interest rate system, because who is supposed to pay that rates?
If the dollar loses its appeal, I wrote about the ressource-based value of the dollar in many fields already, then this won't work out any more. Its the main security behind this scheme.
The Capitalisation of the world is already beyond every reason, you could buy up the whole world various times with all that digital money around!
Its absurd, everybody knows that who cares for the issue, the derivates in particular made the speculative market explode in a totally destructive way.
If the EZB would have done that, no problem at all, but for that the rules in Europe would have to be changed and it might result in a FED-system 2.0 in Europe.
Even though the European politicians are totally corrupted, some still dont want that, but its the only thing close to whats needed in the moment the plutocracy would allow, thats the problem.
In the US they did everything to prolong the financial-interest rate cycle, it started with the removal of the Glass-Steagall Act latest, which was a good law, a really good law, absolutely necessary especially for the situation in the USA.
What happened now with Goldman Sachs & Co. wouldnt have possible otherwise, especially if looking how they betrayed their own customers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_ActThe bill that ultimately repealed the Act was introduced in the Senate by Phil Gramm (Republican of Texas) and in the House of Representatives by Jim Leach (R-Iowa) in 1999. The bills were passed by a Republican majority, basically following party lines by a 54–44 vote in the Senate[12] and by a bi-partisan 343–86 vote in the House of Representatives.[13] After passing both the Senate and House the bill was moved to a conference committee to work out the differences between the Senate and House versions. The final bill resolving the differences was passed in the Senate 90–8 (one not voting) and in the House: 362–57 (15 not voting). The legislation was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 12, 1999.[14]
That says something about your "parties" too, tweedledee and tweedledum I mean...
The whole deregulation of the markets, financial markets in particular, had to result in huge bubbles in the current debt-interest rate based system, that was inevitable. On the other hand it allowed an even greater confusion and cover-ups of financial manipulations, that was what they seem to have looked for.
Now you have the results and their next moves are everything but friendly to the interests of the people...
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