"Armenoid" in southern Italy isn't really Armenoid

[Black Wolf]

Fixed

Southern Italians are genetically closely related to peoples from Anatolia and the Near East it is a fact. You seem to have something against this which I find a bit funny.

[Hadouken]

Of course many Southern Italians will have some physical similarities with peoples from Anatolia. There have been many migrations over many millenia into Southeastern Europe from Anatolia and the Near East.

the Armenoid came to Europe mostly through trading etc.

business travel etc.

no I am not joking lol ...I dont know how to explain though ...through the business relations europeans had with west asians

[Shepherd]

Never said he was, but that he's a mix of phenotypes that give off an Armenoid appearance.

I can use myself as an example too: I've been classified as Pontid but it's not "pure" Pontid, its a mix of Atlanto-Med plus an extra Med (and possibly Alpine) element that gives that vibe.

Places where Armenoids and Pontids dwell aren't too far from Italy, so its not impossible

There are some Pontids right across the Adriatic in the Balkans

[Hadouken]

Places where Armenoids and Pontids dwell aren't too far from Italy, so its not impossible

There are some Pontids right across the Adriatic in the Balkans

Pontid is also very common in Turkey

where I am from we have also Pontids

[Tiberio]

Right, and I think my theory can include other places in southern Europe too. I used southern Italians as an example because that's where I often see Armenoid being applied to.

Indeed. What i would say is the fact that some people here think that people like Caparezza is typical in certain regions of Italy while we know that isn't so. And surely searching at other people can find some similar individuals.

[Black Wolf]

the Armenoid came to Europe mostly through trading etc.

business travel etc.

no I am not joking lol ...I dont know how to explain though ...through the business relations europeans had with west asians

The West Asian/Near Eastern of Southern Italians came in multiple waves from the Neolithic, through the Bronze and Iron ages right up until historical times in ebbs and flows. Some came probably to find new lands to farm, some as merchants and traders, others as soldiers, etc...

[Sikeliot]

Southern Italians are genetically closely related to peoples from Anatolia and the Near East it is a fact. You seem to have something against this which I find a bit funny.

His need to slander me because of my disagreement, is the reason I have left the forum, because apparently it's SO offensive to him that some Italians have a West Asian influence that it's worth slandering me to the forum administrator and trying to get me in trouble.

[Tiberio]

Southern Italians are genetically closely related to peoples from Anatolia and the Near East it is a fact. You seem to have something against this which I find a bit funny.

Southern Italians are genetically more close to other southern Europeans and quite distant from Anatolians and Middle Eastern.

[Ventoforte]

Armenoid is very similar to Dinarid in pure form. But Armenoid doesn't really exist in Europe other than in southern Italy, Jews, Maltese, and a rare Greek here and there.

Who decides? You?

NW Europeans like Benoît Poelvoorde and Ringo Starr would be called Armenid if they were passed for Sicilians and it was asked to guessify them.

[Black Wolf]

Southern Italians are genetically more close to other southern Europeans and quite distant from Anatolians and Middle Eastern.

...That is becasue they have some (minor amounts) of native WHG admixture that Anatolians and Near Easterners are pretty much lacking. Still the fact is that the majority of Southern Italian genes have origins in the Near East.