View Poll Results: Which do you consider to be a more important part of your identity?

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Thread: What do you consider to be a more important part of your identity: race/ethnicity or language?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylie Estefan View Post
    But just because you may be genetically much closer to, say, a Syrian-American than to an Anglo-American or a German-American, Korean-American, Mexican-American, African-American etc, that doesn't guarantee that they'd have any real sense of cultural or linguistic affinity to their origins, or at least not to the same degree that you would.
    Culture and language are malleable, so in a hypothetical scenario where a Syrian American and I have a common language, other factors besides genetics are irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomguy1235 View Post
    Culture and language are malleable, so in a hypothetical scenario where a Syrian American and I have a common language, other factors besides genetics are irrelevant.
    OK, let's just take Brazil then, where there are also lots of people of Levantine ancestry (I assume you don't speak Portuguese). Were you to move there, would you search specifically for Lebanese and Syrian-descended Brazilians, even if you didn't share a common language, and shun Brazilians of African, Amerindian, Spanish, German, Italian, Japanese or Korean descent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylie Estefan View Post
    OK, let's just take Brazil then, where there are also lots of people of Levantine ancestry (I assume you don't speak Portuguese). Were you to move there, would you search specifically for Lebanese and Syrian-descended Brazilians, even if you didn't share a common language, and shun Brazilians of African, Amerindian, Spanish, German, Italian, Japanese or Korean descent?
    I wouldn't shun non-Levantine Brazilians, but my priority would be to engage with the Lev community in Brazil and become integrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomguy1235 View Post
    I wouldn't shun non-Levantine Brazilians, but my priority would be to engage with the Lev community in Brazil and become integrated.
    That community is largely diluted and doesn't speak the language anymore.

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    Race/ethnicity AND cuture. Italy is one example, what does someone from Friuli have to do with a Sicilian? or a Venetian with a Sardinian? a Piedmontese with a Calabrese?

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    Language changes, but one can't change one's features. We are a visual people, and that's why the visuals matter the most when determining identity.

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    Language of course!I like all the Lusophone countries,I always support the portuguese speaking nations in the african cup of nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfieb View Post
    Language is important but not as important. Look at the Irish. Very few of them actually speak Irish, but they're still killing each-other over ethnicity and religion. Look at Yugoslavia. They all speak the same fucking language, just don't tell them that.

    Look at the Jews. They didn't even speak Hebrew until Zionism came around. Nationalism brought that religion back from the abyss.
    The Irish kill each other because they are two separate ethnic groups and religions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto Atreides View Post
    That community is largely diluted and doesn't speak the language anymore.
    Not true. Most formed enclaves throughout South and North America.
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    I consider ethnics to be important. Sure things change over time but that is gradual and a long process. It is unnatural the way it is happening in the West and especially my country.
    ''Tolerance and Apathy are the last virtues of a dying society''- Aristotle

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