Reich: Yamnaya brought R1b to Europe

[Prisoner Of Ice]

That's fucking bullshit. About two-thirds of Iberia was Celtic speakers, only iberos and Basque were pre-IE speakers.

No, it's not bullshit. Those celts came into iberia. Iberian, the language, is not considered IE. Neither is tartessian, nor is basque. The only people who consider them to be IE are those who consider them to be pre-celtic.

I did not mention that possibility because obviously if that is the case then the actual IE homeland is Iberia. Which may well be true, but is far from certain.

[Jackson]

If politics are the motivation behind 'science' that should be pointed out. That becomes more and more the case every day.

Factually, it was pushed west. That doesn't mean it didn't also spread west, that's why it stopped being in the east. The point is, being somewhere, then not, doesn't mean that's how it got west. And it's mostly not that far west, which is why it's called germanic.

I guess that is the whole point. We found r1b in russia. That doesn't mean we'll never find it all through the rest of europe, clearly it was already there. And if it did happen as reich claims then this germanic r1b would be all through europe.

Well it would be pre-pre Germanic, linguists generally look to proto-Germanic as emerging around 500BC iirc. To put it in perspective proto-Germanic emerged the best part of halfway between R1b-P312 being in Germany and us sitting here typing now.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Well it would be pre-pre Germanic, linguists generally look to proto-Germanic as emerging around 500BC iirc. To put it in perspective proto-Germanic emerged the best part of halfway between R1b-P312 being in Germany and us sitting here typing now.

Christ man, get over your aspieness.

[Proto-Shaman]

Anyway, GOOD MORNING guys. That Europe-invading Yamna was R1b is a 2 year old story



HEIL Indo-Europea.

[blogen]

source: Tracing the genetic origin of Europe's first farmers reveals insights into their social organization

[Proto-Shaman]

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source: Tracing the genetic origin of Europe's first farmers reveals insights into their social organization

in favour of Anatolian hypothesis?

[blogen]

in favour of Anatolian hypothesis?

Of course, since this is the genetic evidence onto the strong connection between the neolithization (Körös-Starčevo culture) and the Linear Pottery peoples. And these LBK peoples were the direct cultural ancestors of the western part of the Corded Ware culture, who were the ancestors of the historical Kentum Indoeuropeans in Europe:

Körös culture (proto-Oldeuropean) --> Linear Pottery (Oldeuropean) --> Funnelbeaker (Germanoceltoitalic-Baltoslav northern group) --> Western Corded Ware (Germanoceltic and maybe Italic group)

[Proto-Shaman]

Of course, since this is the genetic evidence onto the strong connection between the neolithization (Körös-Starčevo culture) and the Linear Pottery peoples. And these LBK peoples were the direct cultural ancestors of the western part of the Corded Ware culture, who were the ancestors of the historical Kentum Indoeuropeans in Europe:

Körös culture (proto-Oldeuropean) --> Linear Pottery (Oldeuropean) --> Funnelbeaker (Germanoceltoitalic-Baltoslav northern group) --> Western Corded Ware (Germanoceltic and maybe Italic group)

And Satems are of Yamna origin?

[Jackson]

Of course, since this is the genetic evidence onto the strong connection between the neolithization (Körös-Starčevo culture) and the Linear Pottery peoples. And these LBK peoples were the direct cultural ancestors of the western part of the Corded Ware culture, who were the ancestors of the historical Kentum Indoeuropeans in Europe:

Körös culture (proto-Oldeuropean) --> Linear Pottery (Oldeuropean) --> Funnelbeaker (Germanoceltoitalic-Baltoslav northern group) --> Western Corded Ware (Germanoceltic and maybe Italic group)

The most recent aDNA evidence shows that the western Corded Ware individuals were not the direct descendants of the LBK individuals, in fact they were genetically very distinct from one another.

[blogen]

And Satems are of Yamna origin?

Yes, but the Baltoslavs and the Thracians were satemized (by Yamna) Kentum peoples only.