Reich: Yamnaya brought R1b to Europe

[blogen]

The most recent aDNA evidence shows that the western Corded Ware individuals were not the direct descendants of the LBK individuals, in fact they were genetically very distinct from one another.

What evidence punctually?

[Prisoner Of Ice]

If they came from anatolia, they definitely came much earlier than that anyway. Yamnaya is already too late for anyone with any honesty to accept. We have whole atlantic neolithic with no y-dna. It's just retarded to try and pretend it doesn't exist.

[Jackson]

What evidence punctually?

The topic of the thread...

[blogen]

The topic of the thread...

What was a false conclusion.

[Jackson]

What was a false conclusion.

aDNA is aDNA, unless you're suggesting that the results were deliberately tampered with to indicate that there was population discontinuity between the Early and Middle Neolithic cultures of central Europe, and the latest/eneolithic and Bronze Age cultures of the same area?

[blogen]

aDNA is aDNA, unless you're suggesting that the results were deliberately tampered with to indicate that there was population discontinuity between the Early and Middle Neolithic cultures of central Europe, and the latest/eneolithic and Bronze Age cultures of the same area?

What about the aDNA and what discontinuity?


"We have seen that Middle Neolithic Europeans are a mixture of Early Neolithic Europeans and western European hunter-gatherers."

"The second shows that in relation to the Yamnaya, the Corded Ware share more alleles with Middle and Early Neolithic European populations."

[Jackson]

What about the aDNA and what discontinuity?


"We have seen that Middle Neolithic Europeans are a mixture of Early Neolithic Europeans and western European hunter-gatherers."

"The second shows that in relation to the Yamnaya, the Corded Ware share more alleles with Middle and Early Neolithic European populations."

The corded ware individuals clearly plot far to the east/north-east of the earlier Neolithic population in the region.

That first quote is referring to the Middle neolithic individuals that are not genetically like the modern people or Corded Ware people in the region.

That second quote simply means that the Corded Ware individuals are admixed with the earlier Neolithic individuals in the area, although if you read it through it's clear that it's a small amount, and that it's substantially more in Bell Beaker - but those two populations are clearly not the same as the ones that preceded them, although they are partially descended from them.

[Graham]

Corded Ware is more of a Yamnaya-Mid Neolthic mix. LBK is too early/different.

[blogen]

The corded ware individuals clearly plot far to the east/north-east of the earlier Neolithic population in the region.

That first quote is referring to the Middle neolithic individuals that are not genetically like the modern people or Corded Ware people in the region.

That second quote simply means that the Corded Ware individuals are admixed with the earlier Neolithic individuals in the area, although if you read it through it's clear that it's a small amount, and that it's substantially more in Bell Beaker - but those two populations are clearly not the same as the ones that preceded them, although they are partially descended from them.

Based on what? Definitely not this study.

[Jackson]

Based on what? Definitely not this study.

Well you clearly haven't read it then.