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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthropos View Post
    Culture and religion are wide-reaching concepts. You don't have to be a believer to be culturally Christian. It's on your burden to explain why some cultural backgrounds are so problematic and why they defy assimilation. I admit it openly. But you say that religion doesn't matter culturally.
    Would you rather prefer that immigrants remain segragated in your country or they become assimilated and become the "New Swedes"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean le bon View Post
    Well we are under attack from terrorists. Muslims try to change our law to put charia in legislation.
    why do the fuck do you french and western europeans let so much immigrants in your countries???? what do you gain with those mena immigrants? you want to become 3rd world countries?

    it's also funny that british complain about eastern europeans and want to ban eastern euro immigration to UK but it seems they're ok with muslim browns and blacks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craine View Post
    Irrespectively of religion, a foreigner is always foreigner. Even if all Pakistanis converted to Christianity you still wouldn't want them to enter your country en masse.
    I am against any immigration that isn't natural. Labour should only be imported if the competence cannot be produced from the indigenous population. In the case that a country has to import competence, I say import it from a similar culture. Christians to a Christian country, that is.


    Quote Originally Posted by Craine View Post
    Would you rather prefer that immigrants remain segragated in your country or they become assimilated and become the "New Swedes"?
    It's not my choice. A lesson I learned from varied interactions with people is that most immigrants do not assimilate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfieb View Post
    Blood and culture should be more important than religion. Putting too much value on someone's religious beliefs is what led to inquisition, holy wars, the holocaust, etc.

    I'd respect people more if they just said "We don't want people coming from this part of the world" than "We don't want people who believe some Bedouin guy 1400 years ago was a prophet."
    And how a muslim can be culturally european?
    He doesn't have the same eating habits (no porks, no alcool, only hallal...)
    He doesn't have the same day off and holliday.
    He doesn't wear the same clothes.
    He doesn't read the same book. Basically, only islamic book are allow.
    And so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antimage View Post
    why do the fuck do you french and western europeans let so much immigrants in your countries???? what do you gain with those mena immigrants? you want to become 3rd world countries?

    it's also funny that british complain about eastern europeans and want to ban eastern euro immigration to UK but it seems they're ok with muslim browns and blacks
    We win nothing and it's not my choice. We tried to be nice people and share our wealth. Now we will be less nice, the immigrants will cry but they desserve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean le bon View Post
    And how a muslim can be culturally european?
    How can someone from Albania, Bulgaria, or Bosnia be European? You know there were even Greek Muslims before a population exchange with Turkey, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jean le bon View Post
    He doesn't have the same eating habits (no porks, no alcool, only hallal...)
    There are Christians who don't drink alcohol, and Jews don't eat pork and eat kosher which is the same as halal. Should Jews not be allowed in Europe either?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jean le bon View Post
    He doesn't have the same day off and holliday.
    The same can be said for any nationality. I used to have an Egyptian friend who was Christian. They, along with Russians and other Orthodox celebrate Christmas in January.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jean le bon View Post
    He doesn't wear the same clothes.
    You can't tell an Albanian Muslim from an Albanian Catholic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jean le bon View Post
    He doesn't read the same book. Basically, only islamic book are allow.
    Is Mein Kampf an Islamic book? It's been one of the top selling books in the Middle East since Israel existed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean le bon View Post
    We win nothing, we tried to be nice people and share our wealth. Now we will be less nice, the immigrants will cry but they desserve it.
    EU's immigration policy is very stupid. When our prime minister, Viktor Orbán said that Hungary doesn't want immigrants it caused indignation. Such a stupid world we live in

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfieb View Post
    Most people in Europe are not religious. Therefore, most people in Europe have no culture?
    Non-sequitur. Irreligious Westerners still have a philosophical mindset which differs widely from that of (most) muslims. Not being religious doesn't negate the fact that religion for a big part is culture.

    It's also too abstract to define, but it's there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthropos View Post

    It's not my choice. A lesson I learned from varied interactions with people is that most immigrants do not assimilate.
    That's not necessarily a bad thing. The bad thing is when Swedes assimilate Islamic and third world cultural aspects into their culture (like blasphemy laws) and they morph into a multi-national society in which waving the Swedish flag is considered an offence to non-Swedes.

    Multi-culturalism is not a bad thing in itself, but too much of it it definitely is. Especially when it alters the demographics of a country at a fast pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfieb View Post
    How can someone from Albania, Bulgaria, or Bosnia be European? You know there were even Greek Muslims before a population exchange with Turkey, right?
    Not of ethnic Greek background.
    Quote Originally Posted by peaceandfriendship View Post
    BTW - you having a picture of Pyrrhus as your avatar is the Albanian equivalent of Michael Jackson bleaching his skin white.

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