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    We don't need safer vaccines, we need NO vaccines

    In discussing the issue of vaccines, and particularly the MMR vaccine, Dr. Wakefield and Alex Jones make mention of the need for "clean," "safe" vaccines and medicines that aren't loaded with chemical preservatives, adjuvants and other toxins. Dr. Wakefield, reiterating what he found in his hotly debated study, suggests breaking up the MMR vaccine into individual vaccine components like the Japanese currently do, after seeing how the combination vaccine used in the U.S. causes brain damage in children.

    This is laudable; however, it would seem as though the science behind vaccines suggests that they aren't really needed at all. In a recent piece published by Dr. Robert Rowen, M.D., it is explained that vaccines damage the thymus gland, which is the powerhouse behind your body's immune system. The thymus gland not only produces T cells that keep infection away but also creates special immune cells that promote immunity against specific pathogens.

    When vaccines are given, production of these primitive thymocytes, as they are called, is greatly diminished. As many as 70% of them, in fact, end up being lost, leaving the person vaccinated without this necessary line of defense against disease. Even if a vaccine is made "clean," whatever that means, the process of injecting any type of chemical cocktail directly into muscle tissue, bypassing the body's first line of immune defense, is bound to cause problems, many of which will be lifelong.

    Dr. Wakefield is correct about the MMR vaccine, though -- it doesn't protect against measles, and shouldn't be administered in its current form. MMR does cause brain damage, and it says so right in the vaccine's package insert! And multiple studies have linked the vaccine to autism!

    Be sure to watch the full interview with Alex Jones and Dr. Wakefield, deconstructing the MMR vaccine myth, here:




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    Alex Jones says the vaccines are bad, must be true then.

    The anti-vaccine crowd are a bunch of nutcases that are only putting other people at risk, because they just love to indulge in their own paranoia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCauley View Post
    Alex Jones says the vaccines are bad, must be true then.

    The anti-vaccine crowd are a bunch of nutcases that are only putting other people at risk, because they just love to indulge in their own paranoia.
    If only that was true. Unfortunately Vaccine data is largely based on research fraud and intimidation of scientists:

    It continues to come to light that many of the studies and research projects upon which regulators bought into the vaccine agenda were manipulated, faked or otherwise tampered with to push an agenda.

    Both the safety and efficacy of the MMR vaccine have been called into question on numerous occasions, including late last summer when U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) whistleblower Dr. William Thompson came forward with information about how the MMR had been shown to cause autism in children, and particularly African American children. The government tried to conceal this data from the public, but Thompson bravely brought it to light in a move that could cost him his career.

    More recently, it was brought to our attention that a lawsuit had been filed against Merck & Co., the maker of the MMR II vaccine currently administered to U.S. children as part of the CDC's official vaccination schedule. Filed under the False Claims Act, the shocking suit by two former Merck scientists alleges that Merck manipulated early trial data on the MMR to make it appear safe and at least 95 percent effective, allowing it to receive a U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) endorsement.

    Time and time again, vaccine manufacturers have been caught massaging the numbers, altering study criteria and even tampering with study subject matter, including blood samples and test subjects, in order to achieve a desired outcome. It doesn't matter if a vaccine actually works or is safe -- as long as the data can be adjusted or changed to create the illusion, the government and the public seem to have no problem accepting the official narrative.

    "It cannot be denied that today's mandatory childhood vaccine programs are little more than blind experiments with the possibility of unthinkable and irreversible consequences for our children's physical, mental, and emotional health in the future," wrote Dr. Harold E. Buttram, M.D., and Catherine J FrompovichCatherine J FrompovichCatherine J. Frompovich about the issue. "The time is long overdue for a complete reevaluation of the current vaccine formulations and programs."

    Vaccines directly spread the diseases they are claimed to prevent, science shows

    The MMR vaccine has long been a source of controversy ever since gastroenterologist Dr. Andrew Wakefield reported on an unusual bowel condition that he and his colleagues observed in direct conjunction with the jab. The study, which was originally published in The Lancet, sparked a global debate in which the vaccine establishment has ever since had to aggressively brainwash the public just to stay in business.

    But there's simply no denying that the MMR isn't nearly as safe as Merck and the government claim it is. This is evidenced not only by previously concealed information about its dangers brought to light by Dr. Thompson and the two former Merck scientists but also by Merck's own admissions in the MMR II package insert that the vaccine can cause serious, life-threatening conditions like:

    • Vasculitis (inflammation of the blood vessels)
    • Pancreatitis (inflammation of the pancreas)
    • Diabetes
    • Thrombocytopenia (low blood platelet count)
    • Chronic arthritis
    • Encephalitis (inflammation of the brain)
    • Panniculitis (inflammation of the subcutaneous fat layer)

    Several of these conditions are directly brought about by the live viruses contained in the MMR, including encephalitis, which is also a marker of autism. Even the mainstream media is now acknowledging measles encephalitis as a risk factor, though sources are associating this condition with wild measles as opposed to atypical vaccine-induced measles.

    Then there's the issue of permanent, lifelong immunity, something that can't be achieved with any vaccine. In fact, vaccines eliminate all possibility of a person developing lifelong immunity to infectious diseases like measles because they circumvent innate immunity, the body's first line of defense against disease, exposing the adaptive immune system to viral components that it would never otherwise encounter.

    This causes permanent damage to the immune system and helps explain why many people today are stricken with autoimmune disorders that prior to vaccines were virtually nonexistent. What the media isn't telling you is that natural exposure to measles, for instance, is generally mild and imparts permanent immunity -- it is nature's vaccine, without all the chemicals and heavy metals.

    "Whereas natural recovery from many infectious diseases usually stimulates lifetime immunity, vaccines only provide temporary protection and most vaccines require 'booster' doses to extend vaccine-induced artificial immunity," said National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) President Barbara Loe Fisher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCauley View Post
    Alex Jones says the vaccines are bad, must be true then.

    The anti-vaccine crowd are a bunch of nutcases that are only putting other people at risk, because they just love to indulge in their own paranoia.
    I don't need to believe anything, it's enough to read the 'ingredients' in those vaccines and use my common sense

    Not everything the Pharmaceutical companies tell you is true. They are mostly interested in making money even if that means endangering your health:

    Big Pharma's secret payments to corrupt doctors, scientists finally to be exposed by US government

    According to the Harvard Business Review's (HBR) Paul Thacker, who served as Sen. Grassley's lead investigator from 2007 to 2010, doctors and medical groups routinely accepts cash payments from the drug industry for speaking engagements, scientific papers, and other medical propaganda designed to make drugs and medical devices appear safer and more effective than they actually are.

    An investigation spearheaded by NPR (National Public Radio), Consumer Reports, and ProPublica found that in the three years leading up to its publishing in late 2010, drug companies had settled cases totaling $7 billion for paying doctors to promote drugs. In many cases, doctors were encouraged to prescribe drugs for off-label conditions, or to prescribe expensive drugs when they weren't actually needed.

    "Companies were paying physicians to give speeches on behalf of their products and to publish studies (ghostwritten by the companies) that downplayed those products' side effects," wrote Thacker in a recent piece for HBR, noting that many medical professionals have been resistant to congressional efforts to reign in this unconscionably deceitful practice."

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    All drugs and vaccines come with a long list of side effects, nothing surprising there. Also- "vaccines eliminate all possibility of a person developing lifelong immunity to infectious diseases"- whatever website you got that from fabricated that part, or took it out of context. The doctor the author quoted at the end didn't say anything like that, she only said vaccines don't give permanent immunity, which should be obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craine View Post
    I don't need to believe anything, it's enough to read the 'ingredients' in those vaccines and use my common sense

    Not everything the Pharmaceutical companies tell you is true. They are mostly interested in making money even if that means endangering your health:
    It's pretty common knowledge that pharma companies try to ply doctors with incentives to sell their brand, they are just out to make money like every other company. These companies aren't maliciously trying to poison people or something, the negative health effects arise because much of this stuff is still experimental, they don't know exactly what it does yet. They put it out on the market without knowing fully what sorts of side-effects it might have, which I agree is not a good thing. But there aren't many other options for them.

    Most of these vaccines do work though, they do what they're supposed to. There is a reason kids have to be vaccinated before attending school, it's not just some arbitrary thing.

    And btw, I haven't got a shot or taken medicine for years, because I don't go to the doctor anymore. So I am not an indoctrinated shill spreading mind-control or whatever the fuck you people think. I just use common sense.

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    Don't care really,I never go take them anyway,and Im never sick.

    While I don't recommend that to everybody because not every person's system is strong enough to get by on its own but people should definitely try and distance themselves from pharmaceuticals as much as they can and be natural.

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