QUESTION TO THE SICILIAN MEMBERS: who do you feel is more friendly to you?

[alfieb]

I think half the sample were Trapanese and the other half were Syracusans, so I'd say W. Sicilian DNA is probably somewhere around 30%.

[Sikeliot]

Also this might be of interest. South Italians (the sample is Calabrese) are a bit more purely 'Neolithic' than are the Sicilians, who are in turn more so than the mainland Greeks sampled here. If Cretans and Dodecanese were sampled they'd be somewhere in the East Sicily range.

I think half the sample were Trapanese and the other half were Syracusans, so I'd say W. Sicilian DNA is probably somewhere around 30%.

My opinion is that Palermo and Agrigento have more Near Eastern ancestry than does a large part of Trapani based on results I have seen. But I think averaging Syracuse in with Trapani brought the average down, since Syracuse never was subject to much external settlement.

[Casandrinos]

Well judging by that new study where 20% of Sicilian DNA is recently Middle Eastern, and double that for the Maltese -- 40% -- it is very clear we aren't Latinized Greeks, since they scored 0%. Even the Spanish sample scored some!

Any link?

[Smeagol]

I'm pretty sure nobody is denying Sicilians are Europeans.

[Sikeliot]

Any link?

The Yamnaya one. It was in another thread.

[alfieb]

I'm pretty sure nobody is denying Sicilians are Europeans.

It's been a minority view for hundreds of years.

"L'Europa finisce a Napoli, e, per giunta, vi finisce abbastanza male. La Calabria, la Sicilia, tutto il resto è Africa"
- Creuze de Lesser

[Smeagol]

It's been a minority view for hundreds of years.

"L'Europa finisce a Napoli, e, per giunta, vi finisce abbastanza male. La Calabria, la Sicilia, tutto il resto è Africa"
- Creuze de Lesser

I'm talking about on this forum, since some Sicilian users seem to think that pointing out the fact that a small but significant percentage of Sicilians can look Middle-Eastern or North African means they aren't a European people.

[alfieb]

I'm talking about on this forum, since some Sicilian users seem to think that pointing out the fact that a small but significant percentage of Sicilians can look Middle-Eastern or North African means they aren't a European people.

I've encountered that view on Stormfront and on ABF but not here, no.

The "Sicilians are moors/niggers/arabs" view seems to be only one that is expressed rarely when trolling.

[Sikeliot]

I'm talking about on this forum, since some Sicilian users seem to think that pointing out the fact that a small but significant percentage of Sicilians can look Middle-Eastern or North African means they aren't a European people.

What bothers them is that the minority of Sicilians who can pass in those places is larger than that for most other Southern European groups (places with an equal proportion would be Malta, Calabria, Dodecanese and places like that). I think they feel, above all, some competition with Iberians to prove they are more European than them. But "European" has no meaning outside of a land mass, so I don't see why they care.

[Hithaeglir]

I have never heard anyone saying the opposite.Sicily is considered Italian and it is of course.