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    Quote Originally Posted by Cern View Post
    Fake type, it's just the antipathy against the Slavs.
    I agree. The same can be said about East Baltic and Ladogan types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amud View Post
    How is it a fake type? What are Slavs, then? A lot of people from Russia and Poland seem to resemble Coon's Neo-Danubian examples.
    A belarussian guy once said, that Coon's example looked typical Belarussian, so I guess there's nothing wrong with the plates. However, genetics proves, that belarussians aren't really mongoloid at all, so it's clear that Coon's theories were wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peikko View Post
    A belarussian guy once said, that Coon's example looked typical Belarussian, so I guess there's nothing wrong with the plates. However, genetics proves, that belarussians aren't really mongoloid at all, so it's clear that Coon's theories were wrong.
    The Ladogan type does look Mongoloid, but people could be wrong in assuming that they have Asian genes. It's probably just convergent evolution. Actually, Coon himself even pointed this out when he noted that a Finn and Irishman looked similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amud View Post
    The Ladogan type does look Mongoloid, but people could be wrong in assuming that they have Asian genes. It's probably just convergent evolution. Actually, Coon himself even pointed this out when he noted that a Finn and Irishman looked similar.
    All Northern Europeans share mesolithic hunter-gatherer ancestry, but I don't think Finns and Irishmen overlap much. The Ladogan examples of Coon were obviously mongoloid looking, because he used people from Siberia as examples. He also notes, that
    It must be emphasized that nearly all of the mongoloid racial factors possessed by the Ugrian speakers resident in Siberia were acquired after their shift of territory from European Russia to Asia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peikko View Post
    A belarussian guy once said, that Coon's example looked typical Belarussian, so I guess there's nothing wrong with the plates. However, genetics proves, that belarussians aren't really mongoloid at all, so it's clear that Coon's theories were wrong.
    Neo-Danubian seems like hardly specific type though if according to him it was so common in Poland f.e, why it's hardly real. But then there are very significant differences between Polish and Belarussian people so maybe that's it.

    I dislike lumping Poles and East Slavs together in this context but Mr Coon lived in XIX century and many things changed since so (country borders, etc.). He had many originally wrong ideas/theories.
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    Neo danubian is a slavic look and is not fake like most people here are saying the fake types are West Baltid and other modern types invented by Pseudo Anthropologists and Anthrotards anyway many Neo Danubians do not have any mongol influence some ladogan examples I have seen are 100 percent caucasoid looking

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    Neo-Danubian is just sybtype of Ladogan.
    (4) Ladogan: I propose to give this name to the descendants of the mesocephalic and brachycephalic forest-dwelling population of northern Europe east of the Baltic in Kammkeramik times. This type is a blend of a partly mongoloid brachycephalic element with a mesocephalic form of general Upper Palaeolithic aspect; these elements are seen in crania from Lake Ladoga and Salis Roje. (See Chapter IV, section 13, pp. 125-126.) Corded and/or Danubian elements are inextricably blended here, although the mongoloid and Upper Palaeolithic elements seem at present more important. In its present form this composite type shows two numerous variants:

    (a) Neo-Danubian: Strongly mixed with the old Danubian, and to a lesser extent other elements, to form the common peasant type of eastern Europe, with many local variants.

    (b) East Baltic: Strongly mixed with Corded, Iron Age Nordic, and western Palaeolithic survivors to form the predominant population of much of Finland and the Baltic States.

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    Baltid is also sybtype of Ladogan. All those Internet terms like Baltid, East Baltid, Eastern CM, Balto-CM, West Baltid, Kurganoid and so on are just sybtypes of North-East Upper Paleolithic types.

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