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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterSV View Post
    Wrong quote or something?Bulgarian language has nothing to do with Romanian.They are not even in the Slavic language tree.
    Your language is a mix of Romanian grammar and Russian vocabulary with only two grammar cases: nominative and vocative.

    Which part of above mentioned sentence is wrong according to Bulgarian science?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veneda View Post
    Your language is a mix of Romanian grammar and Russian vocabulary with only two grammar cases: nominative and vocative.
    How is the grammar Romanian? Can you explain that in detail? Having two grammatical cases doesn't make ones grammar like another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veneda View Post
    Your language is a mix of Romanian grammar and Russian vocabulary with only two grammar cases: nominative and vocative.

    Which part of above mentioned sentence is wrong according to Bulgarian science?
    This part.Elaborate on that one and give a source because I have never heard this shit in my entire life.

    Also elaborate on how we are not supposed to understand other Slavic languages considering we have large intelligibility % with a lot of them,especially Russian.We only have problems understanding West and West South Slavic languages,like yours(Polish),Slovenian and Czech-Slovak.Not using cyrillic also troubles us and other cyrillic using Slavs understanding your writing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methmatician View Post
    How is the grammar Romanian? Can you explain that in detail? Having two grammatical cases doesn't make ones grammar like another.
    Bulgarians borrowed gramma from Romania and vocabulary from Russia. I am not your private teacher, btw. Go and buy some private lessons in Australia, if you can afford them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veneda View Post
    Bulgarians borrowed gramma from Romania and vocabulary from Russia. I am not your private teacher, btw. Go and buy some private lessons in Australia, if you can afford them.
    If you can't explain why Bulgarian grammar is Romanian then don't make such claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methmatician View Post
    If you can't explain why Bulgarian grammar is Romanian then don't make such claims.
    I can make such a claim, because Bulgarians know by themselves that their grammar comes mainly from Romania. The lack of your knowlegde is impressive LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veneda View Post
    Your language is a mix of Romanian grammar and Russian vocabulary with only two grammar cases: nominative and vocative.

    Which part of above mentioned sentence is wrong according to Bulgarian science?
    Russian vocabulary? Standardized Russian developed from the Bulgarian recension of old Church Slavonic, which in itself was based off of a Bulgarian dialect from Thessaloniki. If anything, it's vice versa of what you said. Why wouldn't we be able to understand other Slavic languages? I can understand Macedonian perfectly (for obvious reasons) and Serbo-Croatian almost perfectly as well. Russian isn't hard either. As for our grammar being borrowed from Romanian, that just sounds retarded until proven true with a source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veneda View Post
    I can make such a claim, because Bulgarians know by themselves that their grammar comes mainly from Romania. The lack of your knowlegde is impressive LOL
    Bullshit. I've never heard that before in my life and I'de be hard pressed to find any other Bulgarian who has, the fact that you refuse to respond with any source, let alone a credible one shows you're just throwing up shit from your mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veneda View Post
    I can make such a claim, because Bulgarians know by themselves that their grammar comes mainly from Romania. The lack of your knowlegde is impressive LOL
    But you still can't explain how.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methmatician View Post
    But you still can't explain how.
    1. Bulgarian language has enclitic definite article, while Slavic languages generally don't have articles. Bulgarian's adoption of the definite article can be considered as an influence from the surrounding languages, Romanian included. Or Albanian. I would exclude possibility of Scandinavian languages influence.

    Quote from wiki
    Romanian is the only Romance language where definite articles are enclitic: that is, attached to the end of the noun (as in Scandinavian, and Bulgarian), instead of in front (proclitic). They were formed, as in other Romance languages, from the Latin demonstrative pronouns.
    2. The Grammar of Romanian, Oxford University Press, 2013, page 286: (they refer to German scholar Kristian Sandfeld-Jensen)



    3. German linguist Gustav Weigand tried to explain various non-Slavic elements existing in Bulgarian language mainly as an influence from Romanian, such as the postponed article, the restricted use of the infinitive and the loss of case inflection in the nominal system: Here is his original statement:
    "Alles das, was dem heutigen Bulgarischen seine Sonderstellung unter den slavischen Sprachen gibt, wie nachgestellter Artikel, Beschränkung im Gebrauch des Infinitivs, Verlust der Casusflexion und manches andere kann nur durch rumänischen Einfluss in das Bulgarische gelangt sein, denn das Altbulgarische kannte dies alles noch nicht. [...] Eine direkte thrakisch-albanische Beeinflussung ist ausgeschlossen, weil das Altbulgarische rein slavischen Charakter hat und eine spätere Berührung nicht mehr stattgefunden haben konnte, da die Albaner nach Südwesten abgewandert waren. (S. VII/VIII)
    Weigand, Gustav: Vorwort, zugleich Programm des Balkan-Archivs. In: Balkan-Archiv. Fortsetzung des Jahresberichtes des Instituts für rumänische Sprache. I. Band. Leipzig, 1925. S. V-XV.

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