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Thread: US Presidential Candidate Suggests Palestinian State Should Be Created In Sinai

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabatea1 View Post
    Palestinian Muslims and Palestinian Christians are largely the same with minor differences. However we have a real genetic difference with Assyrians, being mostly of Arabian Bedouin stock. There is very little similarity between Iraqi Arabs and Assyrians. Iraqi Arabs are tribal and many of the tribes trace their origins to various area of Arabia. Many of these tribes often moved with their women and children, and this why our mtDNA also is very different from that of Assyrians. Yet Palestinian Muslims have the same mtDNA as the Christian and Samaritian and especially the Samaritans. Have you seen Gilgemesh genetic results he does not differ at all from the other "Levantines" he is Muslim. The comparison is not really the same.
    So which means that the Palestinians are merely Islamized and Arabized ancient Hebrews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    Most Palestinian Christians have historically been against Zionism as well. Though many probably are not happy with the recent Islamist turn in Palestinian nationalism during the past 20 years or so. But it doesn't change the fact that the majority of Palestinian Christians are against Zionist, which makes sense, because they lost out as much as the Muslims did.
    Well, muslim or christian...Palestinians today are a mentally defeated people.

    Ahmedinijad NEVER said "drive the jews to the sea". He basically contemplated the dissolution of the zionist state of Israel, with no mention of evicting Jews. That alone got the Jews blood boiling, while the Palestinians itt are gonna contemplate being driven to the desert? They must feel 'worth-less' vis-a-vis a Israel jew the same way Black Americans felt worth 'less' vis-a-vis white americans until the civil rights (the uppity behaviour of contemporary Aframs is a completely post civil rights phenomona when Whites lost the fortitude to commit acts like lynchings etc) . Its stockholm syndrome 101.

    Watch how African American (stockholm syndrome sufferers) responded to hearing Malcolm X in 1962...1:40 onwards (but watch the whole video to get the gist)



    Its psy-ops, and self hating Palestinians like maleficent and randomguy are a result of a succesful Israeli psych warfare

    the science of self-hate psy ops:



    Maleficent and Randomguy are niggers of the (and to) zionists. Islam is the only thing that grants dignity to them. Who knows maybe someday they might be shot or killed by an IDF guy (maybe anglojew himself, who knows) when that happens they should contemplate the afterlife. Maleficent, I call upon you to obey Allah's command and convert to Islam. Muhammad (PBUH) was sent as Allah's Messenger to the entire world so that sleeping hearts will be awakened and dark hearts illuminated and so that non-Muslims will have no excuses. Submit to Islam so that you will be safe and immune from His punishment and His wrath. If you disobey Allah and reject His Religion, you will be responsible for your own sins. You've already lost in this dunya, dont lose in the aakhira.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    And ironically, the founder of modern Arab nationalism, Michel Aflaq, was a Greek Orthodox Syrian.
    The founders of Arab nationalism were mostly Christian Levantines many were of Palestinian descent. However the Arabians themselves often identified themselves with their tribes Shammar, Anizah, Mutar, Rawallah, Howetiat, Bani Lam, ect. Arab nationalism was then taken by the Hashemites as way to fight the Ottomans, hoped they would be the rulers of the Arab world, this did not happen, because the Sauds who did ally with them briefly against the Ottomans took over the Hejaz(western Arabia) and exiled them into Jordan and Iraq. Well the Sauds took Arab nationalism only briefly and did not really care for it. This time the Sauds wanted to take over all Arabia a goal they always had. In fact there was the First Saudi state which was very troublesome to the Ottomans. Then there was the second Saudi state. From their the Saudi nationality began to form, but tribal identity is still far more important than a national identity. Arab nationalism was very heavy in Egypt at the time and the Levant. It's of course more complex than this though. Arab nationalism started by Arab Christian intellectuals who mostly studied in France and Britain and wanted to emulate European form of nationalism. From this several ideologies and parties were spawned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    Well, muslim or christian...Palestinians today are a mentally defeated people.

    Ahmedinijad NEVER said "drive the jews to the sea". He basically contemplated the dissolution of the zionist state of Israel, with no mention of evicting Jews. That alone got the Jews blood boiling, while the Palestinians itt are gonna contemplate being driven to the desert? They must feel 'worth-less' vis-a-vis a Israel jew the same way Black Americans felt worth 'less' vis-a-vis white americans until the civil rights (the uppity behaviour of contemporary Aframs is a completely post civil rights phenomona when Whites lost the fortitude to commit acts like lynchings etc) . Its stockholm syndrome 101.

    Watch how African American (stockholm syndrome sufferers) responded to hearing Malcolm X in 1962...1:40 onwards (but watch the whole video to get the gist)



    Its psy-ops, and self hating Palestinians like maleficent and randomguy are a result of a succesful Israeli psych warfare

    the science of self-hate psy ops:



    Maleficent and Randomguy are niggers of the (and to) zionists. Islam is the only thing that grants dignity to them. Who knows maybe someday they might be shot or killed by an IDF guy (maybe anglojew himself, who knows) when that happens they should contemplate the afterlife. Maleficent, I call upon you to obey Allah's command and convert to Islam. Muhammad (PBUH) was sent as Allah's Messenger to the entire world so that sleeping hearts will be awakened and dark hearts illuminated and so that non-Muslims will have no excuses. Submit to Islam so that you will be safe and immune from His punishment and His wrath. If you disobey Allah and reject His Religion, you will be responsible for your own sins. You've already lost in this dunya, dont lose in the aakhira.
    Well, I thumbed you up because you made some good points. But I don't see Maleficient as being a self hater, she's demonstrated that she is proud of her Palestinian roots, but her worldview is probably shaped by her life as a half Palestinian Christian living in Bible Belt country.

    As for Randomguy, he's been nothing but a proud Palestinian, so I don't see how he could ever be considered a self hater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    Well, I thumbed you up because you made some good points. But I don't see Maleficient as being a self hater, she's demonstrated that she is proud of her Palestinian roots, but her worldview is probably shaped by her life as a half Palestinian Christian living in Bible Belt country.

    As for Randomguy, he's been nothing but a proud Palestinian, so I don't see how he could ever be considered a self hater.
    first of all, neither randomguy or maleficent even call themselves 'palestinian' but have adopted the Israeli imposed ethnonym "Aramaean".

    Secondly, maleficent focuses on disparaging muslim palestinians, and randomguy palestinians of non-levantine ethnicity. Nitpicking and busying themselves with hate the way inmates in prisons hate each other while the CO's watch on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selurong View Post
    So which means that the Palestinians are merely Islamized and Arabized ancient Hebrews.
    and before that, christianized and arameanized Hebrews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    first of all, neither randomguy or maleficent even call themselves 'palestinian' but have adopted the Israeli imposed ethnonym "Aramaean".

    Secondly, maleficent focuses on disparaging muslim palestinians, and randomguy palestinians of non-levantine ethnicity. Nitpicking and busying themselves with hate the way inmates in prisons hate each other while the CO's watch on.
    I've had plenty of conversations with Randomly and he identifies as Palestinian and is proud of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    and before that, christianized and arameanized Hebrews.
    Where is your proof that Muslims are Native to the Holy Land, and even descended from Islamicized folks of the Native Christian community?
    Spoiler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    Well, muslim or christian...Palestinians today are a mentally defeated people.

    Ahmedinijad NEVER said "drive the jews to the sea". He basically contemplated the dissolution of the zionist state of Israel, with no mention of evicting Jews. That alone got the Jews blood boiling, while the Palestinians itt are gonna contemplate being driven to the desert? They must feel 'worth-less' vis-a-vis a Israel jew the same way Black Americans felt worth 'less' vis-a-vis white americans until the civil rights (the uppity behaviour of contemporary Aframs is a completely post civil rights phenomona when Whites lost the fortitude to commit acts like lynchings etc) . Its stockholm syndrome 101.

    Watch how African American (stockholm syndrome sufferers) responded to hearing Malcolm X in 1962...1:40 onwards (but watch the whole video to get the gist)



    Its psy-ops, and self hating Palestinians like maleficent and randomguy are a result of a succesful Israeli psych warfare

    the science of self-hate psy ops:



    Maleficent and Randomguy are niggers of the (and to) zionists. Islam is the only thing that grants dignity to them. Who knows maybe someday they might be shot or killed by an IDF guy (maybe anglojew himself, who knows) when that happens they should contemplate the afterlife. Maleficent, I call upon you to obey Allah's command and convert to Islam. Muhammad (PBUH) was sent as Allah's Messenger to the entire world so that sleeping hearts will be awakened and dark hearts illuminated and so that non-Muslims will have no excuses. Submit to Islam so that you will be safe and immune from His punishment and His wrath. If you disobey Allah and reject His Religion, you will be responsible for your own sins. You've already lost in this dunya, dont lose in the aakhira.

    You made good points, however you have no right in saying that only conversion to Islam will help the Palestinian cause considering that the Christian claim to the Middle East predates Islam. Most of the holy sites of Christians (barring Rome, the seat of the Papacy) are in the Levant. Christians have more of a right to the Levant than Muslims. Muslims' holy sites are way down south in Medina and Mecca, not at Jerusalem.

    So you should fuck off and not proselytize to her when she's of a religion and breed which has more legitimate rights being native to the Holy Land than the invader Muslim from Arabia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    Maleficent and Randomguy are niggers of the (and to) zionists. Islam is the only thing that grants dignity to them. Who knows maybe someday they might be shot or killed by an IDF guy (maybe anglojew himself, who knows) when that happens they should contemplate the afterlife. Maleficent, I call upon you to obey Allah's command and convert to Islam. Muhammad (PBUH) was sent as Allah's Messenger to the entire world so that sleeping hearts will be awakened and dark hearts illuminated and so that non-Muslims will have no excuses. Submit to Islam so that you will be safe and immune from His punishment and His wrath. If you disobey Allah and reject His Religion, you will be responsible for your own sins. You've already lost in this dunya, dont lose in the aakhira.
    I never disrespected you by trying to convert you, you should show me the same respect.
    Spoiler!

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