Russia Threatens Denmark With Nuclear Missiles If It Joins NATO Shield

[Sarmatian]

My post was was just about showing the ridiculousness of the Russian ambassador's threats. Where did international law come into my post?

So when Psaki making an obvious fool of herself in front of a few journalists - it's all fine, just business as usual. But once a Russian diplomat explaining how military strategy works it's all ridiculous.

Right... Did I tell you before you're a hypocrite?

[Sarmatian]

I can't imagine much has changed linguistically in 10 years but according to this the vast majority either speak standard Russian or standard Ukrainian.

ЛІНГВО-ЕТНІЧНА СТРУКТУРА УКРАЇНИ: РЕГІОНАЛЬНІ ОСОБЛИВОСТІ ТА ТЕНДЕНЦІЇ ЗМІН ЗА РОКИ НЕЗАЛЕЖНОСТІ

What does this map intended to prove? It doesn't show the fact that in Central area over 60% and in South and East over 80% of populations speaking Russian.

[Arhat]

And before PLC conquered it the entire territory (including Galicia) was under rule of Rus princes. Regardless of all these past events it was sold by PLC to Russia in 1686 and since then was part of Russian empire. During this time such ethnicity as Ukrainians didn't exist.



That's not entirely true claim. Because the version of Ukrainian that differ from Russian by 62% is only really used by some Galicians and was created during USSR times for most part. Vast majority of so-called Ukrainians speaking either pure Russian or Surzhik (Russian of various degree of purity with some Ukrainian words/accents)



Those that hate Russia are braindead loudmouths. Most of Ukrainians are either don't care or rather positive about Russia but they keep their mouths shut since they are afraid of SBU. Hence the impression that Ukraine is in total hate for Russia. Even some Ukrainian officers claiming they will turn their men against Kiev the moment Russian army will cross the border. They're just afraid to do it on their own as there were cleansing among military ranks by SBU.

Interesting, i have heard that official ukrainian language during the Soviet Union differed quite much from current Ukrainian spoken in TV. They introduced some changes and some Ukrainians who left Ukraine after the end of the Soviet Union and later visited Ukraine have some problems understanding ukrainian spoken in TV. Do you have any sources for your claim that standard Ukrainian is based on western Ukrainian dialects? I am just asking because i read somewhere that it is based on the Dnjepr-Poltava dialect what i also doubt.

[Methmatician]

What does this map intended to prove? It doesn't show the fact that in Central area over 60% and in South and East over 80% of populations speaking Russian.

You said "Vast majority of so-called Ukrainians speaking either pure Russian or Surzhik" which is wrong according to the report.

So when Psaki making an obvious fool of herself in front of a few journalists - it's all fine, just business as usual. But once a Russian diplomat explaining how military strategy works it's all ridiculous.

Right... Did I tell you before you're a hypocrite?

I'm not sure what you mean. Where is the hypocrisy in my actions?

[Sarmatian]

You said "Vast majority of so-called Ukrainians speaking either pure Russian or Surzhik" which is wrong according to the report.

Really? So when 80% of population speaking pure Russian and 12% speaking Surzhik, as it is at the South, that is not a majority according to you? Or Central area - about 65% speak Russian and 14% speak Surzhik - how do you explain that? Minority?

I'm not sure what you mean. Where is the hypocrisy in my actions?

And you were questioning my ability to deduct? Really?

[Sarmatian]

Interesting, i have heard that official ukrainian language during the Soviet Union differed quite much from current Ukrainian spoken in TV. They introduced some changes and some Ukrainians who left Ukraine after the end of the Soviet Union and later visited Ukraine have some problems understanding ukrainian spoken in TV. Do you have any sources for your claim that standard Ukrainian is based on western Ukrainian dialects? I am just asking because i read somewhere that it is based on the Dnjepr-Poltava dialect what i also doubt.

My aunt and her family living in Kiev. When I was visiting them at summer of 2013 they were complaining about western Ukrainian being forced all over TV so much that even native Kievans were unable to understand some of what being said in programs and shows. I'm myself, being familiar with normal Ukrainian since I'm from Kuban, was unable to recognize most of words while watching TV.

[Graham]

I see no Russian threats in those quotes. The title is misleading.

What was likely in intention, was that Russian-Danish relations will be damaged. That could mean anything from trade to foreign policy.

[Methmatician]

Really? So when 80% of population speaking pure Russian and 12% speaking Surzhik, as it is at the South, that is not a majority according to you? Or Central area - about 65% speak Russian and 14% speak Surzhik - how do you explain that? Minority?

We're talking about ethnic Ukrainians. According to the report Ukrainian speaking Ukrainians make up 38.5% of the population, Surzhyk Ukrainians are 10.7% , and Russian speaking Ukrainians are 28%. In the Southern and Easter, and Eastern-Central regions most ethnic Ukrainians either speak Russian or Syrzhyk. So over all Ukrainians speaking Ukrainians are not a tiny minority, only in Southern and Eastern regions. Eastern-Central has an almost equal distribution.

And you were questioning my ability to deduct? Really?

I'm questioning your ability to remember

[Sarmatian]

We're talking about ethnic Ukrainians. According to the report Ukrainian speaking Ukrainians make up 38.5% of the population, Surzhyk Ukrainians are 10.7% , and Russian speaking Ukrainians are 28%. In the Southern and Easter, and Eastern-Central regions most ethnic Ukrainians either speak Russian or Syrzhyk. So over all Ukrainians speaking Ukrainians are not a tiny minority, only in Southern and Eastern regions. Eastern-Central has an almost equal distribution.

I'm questioning your ability to remember

[Methmatician]

Maybe you should do a little more research before making such claims. Just a suggestion.