The Rise of Christ (first Judæo-Christian)

[Unome]

What are the roots of Judaism and Christianity?

Long ago, Israelite/Abrahamite Semites in the Middle East, copied many ideas from Ancient Greek Hellenism. This was back in the time of Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle. One of the revolutionary philosophical ideas of ancient times, was idealism. In Plato's Republik, the idea of "Utopia" or perfect city arose. People thought of a "future world" were everything would be perfect or "better" than now. This was one of the monumental shifts from which many ideologies originated, to today. For example the idea of "Progress", betterment, improvement, "Post-human", "Trans-human", Humanity, etc. are all ideas which originally came from ideas of "Perfection" and Utopia.

Utopia is the etymological root and core idea of a "Kingdom". (Perfect/Ideal Realm)

In the future, everything can be "better". There can be pleasure, instead of pain, in the future. And so many people are willing to sacrifice their entire lives even, for the hope (Faith) to have a "better life". Pain and suffering now, in exchange for pleasure and bliss in the afterlife.

It's obvious that these ancient ideas inspired most Christian ideas, such as Heaven (reward in afterlife). Even Islam has copied this idea by promising 72 virgins in Heaven for Martyrs. All of these ideas come from the same source/theology.


But the rise of Judæo-Christian Identity has specific roots. Slavery was very commonplace and normal in the ancient era. In fact slavery still exists today throughout the world, but through different terms and wording, "Wage Labor" (in US capitalism).

Judaism came about as a resistance against slavery. Judaism appealed to slaves, who lived hard, unrewarding lives, full of pain, misery, and endless suffering. There was no hope for slave castes. So slaves regularly rebelled and caused civil chaos. This was back around 200BC. With the advent and spread of Judaism, and Christianity, in the Southern European Civilization (Judaism from Israel), the slave castes all immediately liked the ideas.

A "future world" was the appeal. Slaves could be happier in life, believing and having faith in a "better tomorrow". Thus judaism originally was created and spread through this manner.

Christianity began as a mixture and conflict in the ancient Roman Empire. The Christ figure is seen as the "Epitome of Humanity". Today, to be "human" is to be "Christlike", according to most western people. To be "human" is to be humble, servile, civil, passive, and non-combative. It entails following the rules of civilization. This is a different context than Jewish "faithfulness". Christianity was necessary in the Roman Empire to instill order and peace.

Judaism and Christianity eventually mixed and combined ideologies, analogous to the ethnic & racial intermarriages between Roman citizens and Semitic Middle Eastern peoples in the ancient Byzantium Empire. The two major religons combined into one.

The "Christ" figure is the leader or "master of slaves" of Jews and Christians. He is how a person ought to be (within civilization). He is contrary and opposite of a (Northern European) Barbarian/Protestant. This is the difference between a "civil" person or society, opposed to barbarous, hunter-gather, warlike society.

[coolstorybro]

I believe you are partially right.

First of all, what we call Judaism today should rightly be called Talmudism since it follows the writings of the Talmud, which is similar to the Islamic book, I forgot the name, which also deals with the 'right way of life'. Judaism today is essentially a sect of pagan Judaism.

This modern day Judaistic sect arose during the time of Assyrian invasion of Samaria and Judea. Keep in mind here, that there never was a united Israel and the people and places of the so called Israelities do not exist, there is no King Davids Jerusalem etc. However there is plenty of evidence of the Philistrians (who were Phonecians) etc etc. What happens? When the Assyrians invade Samaria, they flee to Jerusalem in Judea. During this siege which lasts many years they abandon their traditional polytheistic pagan religion with that of one god, a wrathfull warrior god who requires dicipline. This is a direct response to the hardships being under siege by the Assyrians. This religion sticks and when they are freed it becomes the base of Judaism, since most of the other paganism has been destroyed by the Assyrians. This religion is propagated by caste of priests, the Pharisees. These Pharisees become the writers of the Talmud.

Therefore, Judaism is in fact a very aggressive, caste like religion.

Jesus was a similar figure as the Buddha, he may even have heard of Buddhism from the near East. Like Buddha, he challenges the strict caste like system and the holy men, the Pharisees, and rushes in a universal religion of spirituality, which does indeed appeal to slaves.

Now, no one knows if Jesus really existed, we do know that early Christians caused a lot of trouble for the Romans with their religion of the 'week, meek etc'. This is why Nietzche calls christianity the first invasion of semmitic slave morality into Europe, the second of course being the semittic Marxism, the third being semittic feminism and cultural-marxism.

[Vorg]

Between the teachings of Christ and Buddha is much more similarities than between teaching of Christ and Islam with Judaism. For the muslims and judaists - all from Allah or Yahweh. And good and evil. And Satan, though present in these creeds, but he certainly not the master of world. So what kind of unified "Abrahamic tradition" - a myth.
For the Buddhist, life - suffering, for a Christian - "devil's vaudeville." Or, as Serrano said, "a tale told by an idiot." He has his own, ariosophical version of Kristianity (namely through the "K").
Tertullian's famous phrase (one of the fathers of the Church) "I believe because it is absurd" is often cited as an example of "obscurantism" and refusal to listen to reason. But the true meaning of it is that a person who has realized the absurdity of the world order, realizes that the truth may be just what is absurd, according to the laws of "this world."

[Unome]

The true histories of religions, cults, and societies can be traced through ideas. Ideas are very static and absolute. They change very little or never at all. Societies need certain ideas, or reflect them in behavior. It's obvious to correlate how such religious ideas arise and spread through the ancient world. Popular religions are expressions of a populace. Concentrating more and more people to live within confined quarters (Confinement).

It's obvious that Judæo-Christianity was the ancient world's most powerful "popular religion". Thus it appealed to the largest amount of people (Theocratic Democracy).

These histories are very interesting, especially when you consider the rise of Roman Catholicism, and the monopoly of education, indoctrination, and knowledge by the Catholic Church. When you control the education of children then you control the future. It becomes too easy to write and rewrite the past. Children believe anything you teach them.


These are mostly Southern European, Catholic, Roman, Christian, Jewish, Semitic historic details.

The Northern European Protestants and others throughout the world experienced and encountered Judaæo-Christianity much later. Islamic is another per-version (pop religion version 3.0) of ancient ideas.

[Vorg]

Christ's teaching was originally a purely elitist, intended for people of a special kind. And regulations, which are contained in the Gospels, has purely spiritual sense. They are by no means the rules of human society.
However, these "rules" at the turn of a new era in the Mediterranean were not just blurred, and completely rotted and virtually ceased to exist. Moral decay of the masses was so strong that urgently needed to give them new standards.
Therefore Empire and adopted Christianity. And she began to actively implement it in all layers of the totally degraded population. New commandment created a new civilization - a civilization of Triumph of the Spirit - medieval Europe.
However, in order to Faith was perceived by "animal's" masses, was required its "adaptation", during which there occured a gradual concealment of original meanings. And some of the meanings were perverted and acquired a completely different sounding
So, Way for the elects became a "religion of slaves" ...

[coolstorybro]

I believe Christ is he existed is best seen as a Gandhi figure.

Rabbinic Judaism aka Talmudic Judaism aka Messianic Judaism originates during the Roman occupation of Palestine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins...ish_messianism

Talmudic Judaism is led by the Pharisee sect and is agressive and wants for a great military leader as Messias to re-establish a Jewish Kingdom.

Jesus and his followers also desire a Kingdom of God, but seeks to bring about it in non-military fashion, mainly by destroying the imperialistic paganism of the Romans, therefore 'give unto the emperor what is his'.

As my link states, at the time there was an Apocalyptic movement in Judaism, this is also seen in the Revelation which is the 7 beasts or the 7 hills upon which Rome is built.

Jesus is Gandhi, the non-violent Messia who frees the jews, which he indeed succeeded in, though almost 2000 years later, when Israel is established and defended, not least because most of the world then is Christian and therefore believes in an Israel for the jewish people.

[Vorg]

For a person with Christian consciousness (even if he considers himself an atheist) death is totally unacceptable. And for Pagans, death - the law of nature. And indeed it is. But Christianity - a rebellion against death, and thus against the laws of nature.
"Do not love the world or the things in the world" - He said because in "this world" there is no love. She is originally from the Otherworld. Too she is contrary to the laws of nature.
Pagans say, that for this "love", Christians shed rivers of blood. All true. And no wonder. Christ warned that "not to bring peace, but to bring a sword."

[Vorg]

Christ commanded us to love our enemies, but he never told us to have mercy on them.

[Unome]

Great information, more is appreciated!